Schroeder vs. Triplanar VII Sonic Differences


All,

I have read a lot of threads regarding the "superiortiy" of these tonearms in the right combinations of tables and catridges. However, there doesn't seem to be a lot said about the soncic characteristics of each brand and the differences between them. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about their strengths and weaknesses, sonci characteristics, applicability to various types of music (rock, pop, classical, large scale, small scale, etc).

Will a Schroeder deliver dynamics, punch, bass suited to Rock music? Will a Triplanar deliver natural, timbral accuracy? Are both these arms suited to the same music?

Thanks in advance,

Andrew
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SirSpeedy's criticisms of the TriPlanar's shortcomings are still accurate, but his conclusions are not.

Yes, there is play in the VTA/SRA threads, but this is easily dealt with. We make quick, precise and consistently repeatable SRA adjustments every day.

There is no fine VTF adjustment, but this is easily dealt with. We make quick, precise and consistently repeatable VTF adjustments to the nearest .01g or less every day.

Every arm has its idiosyncracies. The question is, can they be dealt with or do they present insuperable barriers to sonic performance? On a TriPlanar or Schroeder they are easily dealt with and present no such barrier.
Well, Frank, I got the info about the SQ from one of your dealers. Possible, that HE didn't understand all, but HE told me, what I wrote, that this version is significantly more expensive than the Reference. Possible, that pricing is sometimes different.
Hi All,

Lots to catch up with on this thread. A couple of quick points, and I'll try to return to this later in the day.

Quattro ALU = Gavia (with change to TPI platter version)

Quattro Supreme = Stelvio (with the change to the Stelvio TPI platter)

Early this year, I decided to make a final existential split with Peter (Redpoint) by letting him have all naming references to Italian motor cars. It only made sense to complete the vision - the romance I have with all things involving mountains.

Peter and I speak on average twice per week. When I told him that I was giving up the Quattro name, he mentioned to me that just that week he decided to eliminate Testa Rossa moniker from his lineup. Great minds think alike. He too, wanted to simplify and break with the past.

About that time, it also dawned on me that some platters (i.e. the Stelvio) followed this mountain naming pattern, but that the other two platters (Teflon/Alu and PVC) spoke more of material science.

Of course at this time, the Teflon / Alu platter was evolving into the graphite topped, TPI interface.

I began to see a pattern unfold - that 90% of Gavia turntables are ordered with the "middle" platter (the Teflon / Alu on Mike's 'table and now, the graphite topped, TPI version).

With the evolution of this platter to the graphite topped TPI, it made sense to re-badge this platter as the Gavia platter.

The name change was completed by renaming the PVC platter into the Serac.

I think I'm done with name changes now. Folks seem to be having less difficulty with this scheme. They have an easier time pronouncing all of this than they do the name Galibier.

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier (guh-lih-bee-yay)
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for your reply. If you could forward(privately) which dealer it was, I will see to fill in this information gap.

Hello Andrew,
I don't want to use this forum as an advertisement platform(I said that before) but only to supply information of general interest(sometimes it's hard to draw a line). So I'd prefer to answer questions regarding the SQ version via phone or mail. I'd do it here if I won't get hammered for it... ;-)

Hi Rick,
Just a plain New York Style pizza would be enough :-)
I love New York and seeing a fellow audio enthusiast is just one excuse to visit the area. So you could count on me dropping by when the next opportunity comes up(regardless of which arm you'd buy)

Cheerio,

Frank
Doug,in all honesty,you seem to becoming a bit guilty of what I was being accused of some months ago.
I really tried to make my comments rather benign,and specifically stated that the criticism "was not earth shattering",and could be attended to,with some "fotzing around"!I am certain my conclusions are not inaccurate,but none of this should be of any consequence anyway!
My intentions were to simply "rap anlog",on a subject that may be of interest,but nothing profound.
I make sure to keep any additional feelings I may have about certain arms,like the one I currently own,and it's "still fabulous" performance,to a minimum,as I believe this subject has been played out,and there is clearly more interest in other arms,on these threads.Yes,there does seem to be a good bit of marketing,and defense of friends,going on,but who cares?I like it all,anyway.
There was no need to "correct me",though I still love you,and don't fall into the pattern that I regrefully did!
Best!