SCHEU Premier substitution

I read recently (I believe here) that the motor on the Premier ll and other Scheu were not as good as the motor on the Teres or Galibier or Redpoint. Any comments Darkmoebius or anyone else? Any comments on the Scheu versus the Galibier/ Teres??

Rick (RWD)

Dear Ad010685: +++++ " Which brand/models will be an overall improvement? " +++++

I think that the Basis ( with the vacuum hold down ), Galibier or Acoustic Signature will be a very good choices but there are others, that depend on your budget.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

RWD,
I haven't owned any of the Teres, Galibier, or Redpoint TT's simply because there is a substantial price difference between they and the Scheu. So, I really can't offer any informed opinion on the motors. The lowest priced Teres is still $1k more(1.5x), the Galibier is $2.2k more(2x plus), and Redpoint A is $6k more(4x) the Scheu.

But, I do have a KAB Speedstrobe which is accurate to 0.03% at both 45 and 33.3 rpms and once the Scheu is tuned in, it doesn't show any visual variation at all. I have a geeky habit of checking when the TT is first turned a few LP's in and after a few hours.

Are there micro-fluctuations within the visual siting? Possibly, but I haven't been able to detect them by ear yet. I would think pitch variations would be detectable in sustained notes of solo musicians. My system is fairly revealing and accurate, so I would think any pitch fluctuations would stand out. Who knows, though?

In fact, Scheu is developing a new, better motor, to go with the new model, which according to some German audiophiles who have already listened to it, offers not only a new design, but even better bass and soundstaging. I have listened to Acoustic Signature tables, and while I agree they are fine tables, they too IMHO do not play at the same level as the Scheu, at the same price.

Hassel,

I've heard the Tacco/Schroeder comparison several times from a few German Scheu owners, I assume the tables are fairly popular over there. Did you have a chance to compare the Tacco to a Schroeder, and if so, which one?

There aren't too many owners here in the States, so there aren't many people with comparison experience.

The combination is extremely musical to me, but I don't have much(acutally any) other personal vinyl expereince.