Anybody heard Galibier or JC Verdier turntables?


I have finally narrowed my selection to these two turntables. HELP!!!!!!
Wondering if I could get some feedback on these turntables. Does anybody own these and or have any first hand experience. I am driving myself NUTS trying to decide between these two tables. The two tables are:

Galibier GAVIA or the JC Verdier LA PLATINE

Thanks
Rugyboogie
rugyboogie
Hey Doug,Dan is nice enough to admit to feeling my pain.How about you?-:)

It's Saturday night.Don't be such a "technical" stick in the mud!Have a nice cheap bottle of Beringers Chardonnay,or perhaps some Chateau St Jean Reisling.Well they're not "that" cheap,but they went well with my Tai dinner.At least my wife liked them.

Best!
Rugyboogie,

Those who can are traveling to Boulder that weekend to hear Galibier, Schroeder, Dynavector, Teres and what ever else can be squeezed in. I'm in the market for a table as well, others want to hear tonearms. Chris, of Teres, is orgainizing an open house the night of the 13th and has told us he'll have a new direct drive offering as the top-o'-the-line Teres. All who can make it are welcome. Certainly a great opportunity to meet many great people. I believe there will be reps from a couple of speaker builders as well. Should be great fun!
"This is typically after every race and I do
know that the forces acting on the supension are greater than that of the pulley system acting on the side of the platter and it's spindle/shaft bearing."

You misunderstand what we are talking about when we say 'bearing' in the context of a TT. It isn't the spindle/sleeve surface we are talking about (this bearing surface has minimal load as you point out). We are talking about the thrust bearing load, and it is VERY substantial. 40 lbs on a point ain't nothing to sneeze at. It was already pointed out that the delrin thrust bearing went from a convex surface to a concave surface in one poster's experience. You can always change out the delrin bearing, however. I personally would be concerned with an increase in bearing rumble as the thrust surface wears...but that's just me.
I won't presume to speak for Thom, or Chris, but I can't help but think that what may be at work hear is the change in bearing surface contact area as the delrin thrust plate breaks in. That is to say, we first start with an extremely small point of contact that as break-in occurs grows to an optimum surface area where further wear is greatly reduced over time. Or, perhaps there is some material in this area of the thrust plate that is meant to give way during break-in.

I forget what it's called, but I remember there was such a material on crank shaft bearings that was meant to safely wear away during normal break-in of stock motors. We used to carefully polish that off when assembling race motors.

Thanks Dan,

Exactly my take on this. At some point, the forces equalize.

What really amazed me was how similar the rate of this dimple formation was - between materials so disparate as brass, stainless, and Delrin.

Limited computer access this week from Ottawa (nice town).

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier