"High end" cartridge use on VPI SCOUT??


I listed a post earlier about what cartridge would be best used on a VPI SCOUT...I got to thinking...my preamp is a MCINTOSH MX-117 (vintage 1980) and my amp is a MCINTOSH MC-2205 (vintage 1978)....does the phono stage in the older gear justify or merit a "high end" cartridge like a BENZ MIRCO GLIDER, SUMUKO BLACKBIRD or a DYNAVECTOR 10x5??? Will I get my monies worth??? Your thoughts.
dean_fuller
don't worry about your mac phono stage unless you got off the deepend on a low output mc, which in all honesty is not a good idea. any name brand high output mc or mm will be fine. the mac phono stage old or new is one of the finest.
I found the MM phono on my Mac 2200 a little on the warm and smooth side for two cartridges (Ortofon Kontra B and MC30 Supreme) and found substituting the GSP ERa V and ELevator opened out and energised the sound.

Currently I have a ZYX R100H on my JMW 12.5 arm on a TNT-6 HR which is a very clean even sound - not as racy as the Kontrapunkt but overall more neutral sounding and I'm very happy with it - bought it for US$800 in Thailand so it seems good bang for buck
Hi, Considerations to keep in mind, which I haven't seen mentioned in this thread, or the other, is that it is said that all moving coil cartridges with an output of 1.5mv or higher generally act like a moving magnet cartridge in regards to loading, and generally work great at 47k ohm loading, so you won't have any problems to deal with there.

What I haven't seen mentioned, is that gain for your pre-amp typically will generally like, and be best compatible with a cartridge that will have about a 3.5mv output. (where most MM cartridges fall)

With let's say something like a Glider (which I think the new ones are at about 2.0mv, or 2.2mv?), you might find that you'll have to crank the volume control more than what you'd like, to achieve likeable volume levels from your system. I'm pretty sure your Mac Pre doesn't have provision for user adjustable gain settings. (I myself own a Mac MX-130 which doesn't)

This will be a slight incovenience due to mismatch, and then one must always remember to be careful switching inputs on the pre-amp, as switching over to FM, or CD could be so loud, that accidental damage could occur to speakers.

Other options would be a top of the line MM offereing from Shure, Grado, Audio Technica.

Your system (Mac Pre, and Amp) can certainly utilize better front end hardware than what I previously mention, but the bottom line will be "how deep are your pockets"?

You will reach a igher level of sonic nirvana with a med-low MC Cartridge, and external Phono Stage, and one can easily spend another $3-5K in this area to achieve this nirvana.

In my own VPI-Mac based system, I graduated from the nice, and relatively inexpensive McCormack Micro Phono Drive, which can be gotten around $300 used (Which another A-gon member now owns) and bought a Sutherland PHD Phono Stage, a $3K new unit which I paid $2k used from a-gon.

The upgrades were readily apparent, and should be.

I've been out of the mix lately with many of the new high output MC's out there, but make sure you do check their rated output for compatibility. Hope this helps, Mark