Which would you choose to isolate your turntable?


Choosing between MinusK, Vibraplane or Critical Mass System, which would you prefer? Or is there a superior alternative?
willster
A friend and visitor to my music group just purchased the MinusK. It was a significant improvement over his Vibraplane. What I noticed was a blacker background (less apparent noise) and tighter, deeper bass.

He was not unhappy with the Vibraplane's performance but plagued with pump failures and grew tired of replacing them. I don't know if that's normal or his bad luck.

The only negative with the MinusK, the outer chassis rang loudly tapped with a finger and ANY movement above such as lifting or lowering the CD transport lid, sent the Minus K madly into oscillation.

Once stable from being handled, his CD player benefited greatly, so I guess that's all that matters. I have no experience with it's use with a turntable, but the ringing and jelly like movements would concern me, particularly with an expensive cartridge hanging out there.

It's difficult to have experience with both MinusK and Vibraplane systems in the same room with turntable and digital formats I would think.
Hi Willster,

I have the same 3 units on my short list. MinusK and Vibraplane were alone on my short list for possible upgrades to my system, with MinusK having a slight edge based on technical information. I was getting ready to order a MinusK unit when I got a call from Brent Rainwater (Brainwater on Audiogon) of Rainwater Audio raving about the Critical Mass System platforms. He claimed that in direct comparison with his Vibraplane, the Critical Mass platform was far superior. My ears perked up because Brent is a long time user of the Vibraplane in his reference quality system and because he has a great pair of ears. He couldn't stop talking about the Critical Mass, and he wasn't even a dealer for it at the time. So I have added the Critical Mass to my short list and will in fact try it first instead of the MinusK. I'll keep you posted. Perhaps, Brent could chime in and share the details of his observations. On the other hand, he may not because he has since become a dealer for Critical Mass.

Best Regards,
John
First , I just picked up Critical Mass as a line for my company as I am in the initial stages of cherry picking lines for my new business Rainwater Audio . I pick lines I want to own in my reference system . My thoughts are that if the lines are good enough to satisfy me then they should appeal to others with good systems as well. My comments should be taken for what you feel they are worth. Having traversed through the minefields of isolation I have come to realize how important vibration control is . I have great respect for many of the companies out there as I personally own nearly a dozen lines that I have in 3 systems at this stage. David Elrod of Elrod power systems is a genuine person in audio and I listen with respect when he speaks. At CES , I went to the Elrod , Joule Electra , Critical Mass room at the Alexis. Both Mr Barber as well as David spoke very highly of Critical Mass isolation platforms. When I settled in back home I researched the company . Joe Lavrencik owner designer was pretty hush hush about the design but offered to let me try 2 Master Reference Platforms for my Conrad Johnson LP 140 monoblocs. Packed very well and beautiful built , I placed them in the system and heard nothing . I had replaced top of the line Sistrum for these. It actually sounded worse than the Sistrum . I called Joe and he said to wait 160 hours for break in . He explained that since the component sits on the :inner: platform , I should expect it to " settle " . I was told that the sonics would swing wildly and I possibly might have to adjust toe in of the sppeakers as a result. I have been to new Orleans and I know VooDoo when I hear it so I chuckled and went to the beach and when returned , there were 200 hours on the stands. That Monday I fired the system up and let it burn for a couple of hours before listening . To say I was astonished at what these platforms had done for my system would be a serious understatement. At this stage , this sounds like a pitch for the company but I am not shilling anything . I will say that the platform turns floor , airborne and component mechanical vibration into heat and dissapates it inside the platform draining it in effect if I understand him correctly . Personally , this is one of the few times I would gladly descend in to "hyperbole hell" and paint myself into a corner . They are that amazing . Every one of you that value isolation platforms owes it to yourself to try these components. He has recently made a significant improvement over earlier designs so I am told and they surpass in performance any previous model he has made up until now. I am sold completely . Brent Rainwater Rainwater Audio .
Simon Yorke recommends a 1 ton block of granite, i assume on a concrete floor. if that's not practical, a wall shelf onto brick or loadbearing wall is excellent, and personally i'd prefer that to active isolation devices like the vibraplane. That said, the Minus K is impressive indeed and a good solution if the table needs to be rack mounted. I'd still like the Minus K to sit on some mass and be decoupled though, so its not having to do too much work.