Tranfiguration Orpheus description

Neil,hope you know I was NOT referring to any of your well intended E-mails.I had received an E-mail from a poster who did not like my candid, albeit "baiting",attitudes,regarding the "superb"(I knew it/he actually didn't)Orpheus.My intent got the "debate I was looking for",but some folks are so "ego driven,and self centered",that they only perceive this as an attack(which it was not).Of course there is always the buddy system at play,which could instigate things,a bit,but that's life.
I took a while to perculate,but after being "threatened to be outed as a liar,with intentions of disrupting posts,on purpose",I'm not about to be bullied off these threads.Though I have lost a significant desire to post,as a consequence.
To the party(who I actually liked,prior to Prissy outburst)feel free to be the HP of the web,which you so clearly identify with.I am content to hear my music.
As to the Fremer review,the criticism,to me,comes off as a bunch of "GEEKS" at a Star Wars convention.C'mon,anyone wanting to know actual tracking force(he gave parameters,and differing turntable use too,btw,as well as overall good,reliable input,which WAS accurate "to the nines" regarding performance over the Temper series).Of course some may have wanted to know what he had his "Phazer" set on for loading,etc,but,anyone can come up with that info on his/her own.Like actually "touching" one's own set-up,and NOT relying on others(know -it -alls excluded)to be a guage of what you like.I don't know any hobbyist who admits(in his hear of hearts)that what he owns,assuming it is good,is not his real preferrence.
Fremer is being bashed unfairly,IMO,and wrote a darn good overall piece.Sorry if he did not give the actual "azimuth angle of choice",but what do I know?
Fairwell!

Does Anyone know the song by the Kinks "Stop Your Sobbing" The Pretenders covered it in 78

It is Time for you to stop all your sobbing It is time for you to Laugh instead of crying and keep on smiling whoa oh oh. There one thing you gotta know to make your dreams come true. You gotta stop your sobbing now Stop stop Stop stop
Gotta stop your sobbing now. Stop stop Stop Stop your sobbing! Your Sobbing!

As best as I recall

Listening to the music that lives in my soul.

regards

Groovey

While none of us have the same room, few of us have the same system, and many of us don't even have the same records, I think there is merit in review descriptions sufficient to allow a reader to reproduce the music the reviewer heard. And its not much of stretch to take that same perspective to equipment setup and use.

Generally, more information is more useful and less is less. Imo, the bare minimum for a review is reference to the records - preferably to the tracks - used as the basis of a description. I know I try to get as close to denoting what I hear ("the opening triangle in the Allegro... blah blah blah") so my reader can at least get to the same sound even if he doesn't have the same equipment. You don't want to over do it, but its very helpful (for me anyway) to cross check my ears and my system with what someone else hears and the more information you give me so I can do that, the better.

So sure - even if I don't own a $100k Kielbasa (or whatever is Mikey's table), I would like to know where he ended up with load or VTA so I can gauge the state of the O in my own system. No different a question for him than it is for any other owner or longer term user. Geeky - ok, call it geeky, but read most of the threads here - folks invested in multi-$k gear value info about the details.

Admittedly few readers will have the component they are reading about, so a majority of the reviewer's audience may not care about setup details. Until, of course, they become owners. Imo it is not a complete waste when a review lacks information about product setup and use, but a review can be so much better when the writer includes it. That info takes the writer out of the realm of prosaist into the realm of product user. Maybe that was Neal's point.

Cheers,
Tim

Tim, you're right that was my point.

Doug, Dan,

Here are some comments with respect to azimuth adjustment that were discussed earlier in the recent past of this thread.

I finally got around t ocleaning some more of my calssical records and have been now playing some mono recordings. Using these it is much much easier to adjust azimuth. With samll changes I can get the image very centered in the middle.

Now I know what you mean. It is very difficult with Stereo recordings but relatively it's a cinch with mono's. I don't think I'll need to invest in the Wally analog shop.

What a great hobby. Don't get this level of learning satisfaction with cd's.

Andrew