Building high-end 'tables cheap at Home Despot II


“For those who want the moon but can't afford it or those who can afford it but like to have fun and work with their hands, I'm willing to give out a recipe for a true high-end 'table which is easy to do, and fun to make as sky's the limit on design/creativity! The cost of materials, including 'table, is roughly $200 (depending, more or less), and add to that a Rega tonearm. The results are astonishing. I'll even tell/show you how to make chipboard look like marble and fool and impress all your friends. If there's interest I'll get on with this project, if not, I'll just continue making them in my basement. The next one I make will have a Corian top and have a zebra stripe pattern! Fun! Any takers?”

The Lead in “Da Thread” as posted by Johnnantais - 2-01-04

Let the saga continue. Sail on, oh ships of Lenco!
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A new white one is born.
It sounds wonderful with the Mayware arm and Grace F-9 cartridge. What a difference VTA makes with this one! That's been a lot of fun to learn and play with.

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It is an untweaked L75 that just sits loosely on stilts (screws) on top of a super heavy "sand stone" plinth with some white paint splashed on.

Now I have some fiddling to do with my plastic Technics 3210 + Adcom cartridge to see if it can catch up :)
Hi Ronnie, reminds me of my first Lenco of all, sitting on stilts with just the Rega bolted in the tonearm-hole. Minus the big white brick of course ;-).

Up here I've just finished another Giant Lenco, the Burgundy Bomb, and listening to it with the RS-A1/Denon DL-103"E" I am once again amazed: it's hard to believe ALL Lencos can sound this good, and so before playing a new one I always expect it to be a disappointment, and am always delighted to be proved wrong!!

The instantly-recognized Lenco sound can be summed up in two words: "Unstoppable" and "Liquid". There is an inevitable POWER to the sound of the Lenco, a sort of juggernaut-type unstoppable sound - which is speed stability SO potent it is actually audible - allied to an utterly fluid and ultra-finely-grained smoothness which is purely liquid. As often written, like the aural equivalent of the Amazon in full flood: Unstoppable, and liquid. Add in ultra-accurate and razor-sharp transients, unbelievable amounts of detail, unmatched gestalt, ultra-deep and limitless and TIGHT bass, limitless dynamics, a soundstage as wide and deep as the Pacific, and you have the case of the Mighty Lenco: the turntable which is SO unbelievably good that even after three years of total conversions - and gaining in frequency, and replacing pricier and pricier belt-drives and yes, DDs - witnesses to the Lenco/Idler Phenomenon cannot believe it is for real.

In fact, I've thought about this often: if the Lenco were not quite as good as it is, acceptance of its Greatness would actually likely be more advanced than it is today. But so incredibly, unbelievably good is the Lenco (and so proving the case of the Idler-Wheel Potency), that this leads to strong (but accurate) language which leads onlookers to dismiss it as wishful thinking. Right now Eurythmics "Touch" is playing, and NEVER have I heard it hit with such transient alacrity/agility/speed/slam, backed up by POWER and PRaT which makes one get up and dance, and shiver and shake uncontrollably...yes: the Kundalini Effect!!!! Dismiss as hyperbole you watchers out there, and deny yourselves what it is you all claim to be seeking.

Cheap to buy a Lenco, simply sit it up on stalks like Ronnie or on bricks like Palmnell long ago, and find out just where your pricey overengineered (and underperforming, as you would find out) belt-drive rates!!! I just received an e-mail from a group of fellows who, reading the 6moons preview, set up a Lenco - unmodded, untweaked, unrestored - and were utterly blown away when they set it up against a pricey belt-drive, which shall remain unnamed for now.

Why is the Lenco so good? There is a logical reason: speed stability. That's it. It demonstrates just how bad belt-drives are, and just how audible the complex circuitry in DDs are. Of the three systems, the idler - which was built and developed specifically to combat Stylus Force Drag (the braking action of the stylus in the groove) - is the superior one. Decades of development of what was a good idea to begin with (as opposed to belt-drive, which was a bad idea to begin with), which is today continuing with the ongoing Idler Revolution!!

The Lenco especially relies to a large extent on pure physical fluid momentum to achieve its particular form of speed stability: the flywheel platter (much more of a flywheel than any other idler ever made), coupled delicately to its vertical (and very thin and accurate) wheel which does not pull or push the platter to either side, leaving the platter to spin like a top with an inexhaustible source of energy, the 1800-rpm cogless motor. Platter-motor, motor-platter, a closed system which, once again, utterly ignores the existence of stylus force drag, and at the same time provides an extremely sophisticated and unstoppable 33 1/3 RPM.

Speed stability figures for belt-drives are evidently averaged out, as are those of DDs as comparison to Lencos makes ultra-evident. Where the Lencos and other large idlers score is down down down to the micro level. Current speed stability figures are like using rulers in which the smallest graduations are centimeters to measure millimeters. The incredible musical prowess of the Lencos demonstrates that the human ear is MORE sensitive to speed instabilities at the micro/(millimeter)-level where idlers rule than at the macro level where, perhaps (think loaded dice and the three types of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics), high-mass belt-drives achieve better figures, when averaged out. Where's my proof you ask? My proof is this: listen to a Lenco, and Dare to Compare.

While Lencos sitting on bricks and perched on stilts sound great, what mass brings to the party is this: greater extension at both frequency extremes, more silence, more detail, more dynamics and slam, and the reason for all this is partly increased speed stability. Yes, being nailed to a very large plinth prevents the Lenco from moving however minutely, and concentrates all the Lenco energies on its amazing Mill: the closed-system platter-motor motor-platter, with the vertical wheel delicately and unintrusively acting as Liaison.

All these things will be proven with time, the Great Audio Ladder is being climbed, the Audio Gods are with us!! In the meantime, enjoy your Lencos and other idlers all!!
I'm back to discuss the RS Labs RS-A1/Denon DL-103"E" combo: it is superb, and could easily be that mythical thing, the Final Analogue Set-Up! I've just discovered the key to this combo - so it performs as well in the bass as it does everywhere else, which is to say fully and perfectly - is solidity. Either it should be mounted on a thick and solid tonearm-board (I made an extra-thick one of walnut bonded to birch-ply), or directly to the plinth (the RS-A1 directly on the plinth the Lenco is set-up on provides perfect VTA).

As I've written before, in musical terms - i.e. SLAM, PRaT, gestalt, naturalness and tonal "unexaggeratedness" - the "humble Denon DL-103 is the King of MCs. But mount it on a tonearm which truly realizes its potential - and so far in my experience this means either the SME V (pricey) or the RS-A1 (at the price an incredible bargoon, given it ranks as one of the Best Tonearms in the World at $1350 full retail) - and it becomes a prime detail-meister as well, especially if it has the elliptical tip (80 euros for the re-tip from phonophono in Berlin).

I cannot get over just how incredible this match - Giant Direct Coupled Glass-Reinforced Lenco, RS-A1, Denon DL-103"E" (regular 103 with elliptical tip) - is!! It has as much musical magic as I've ever heard from anything, dynamics to blow the furniture out of the room, it has the detail of $5K tonearms allied to state of the art MCs, AND it's dead quiet and picks up none of the Mighty Motor's electrical field, even when the cartridge rides directly over the motor (and the arms wires are totally exposed, and there's no ground wire for the tonearm, perhaps that's why?)!! AND it's dead quiet in the groove!!! As to PRaT, I've never heard its equal, and the bass detail is better than I've heard from the Denon (and pretty well anything else) except when its mounted on the SME V.

The Lenco, which may well rank with the Best in the World (or better ;-)) when properly optimized, is an incredible bargain. The RS Labs RS-A1, which ranks with the Best in the World (when matched to the Denon especially) is an incredible bargain. The Denon DL-103, when one concentrates on the music instead of the information (and even on the information...when mounted on the RS-A1), is King of MCs, musically-speaking (and in many important audiophile areas as well, such as imaging and balance). Put them all together, and you have a combo which for many will be their Last of All Time. The strengths of MMs (gestalt, PRaT, warmth) allied to the strengths of MCs (speed, detail), and pumped up to the MAX via the Giant Lenco, yikes!!

Enjoy your Lencos and other idlers all!!
What auditory delights I'm blessed with! Sometimes I just feel so grateful for having such amazing sound quality to listen to...yeah, my system hasn't cost a fortune, but after listening to £50k+ system a couple of weeks ago, I don't see how anyone can justify spending an extra £49,300 for a system that didnt sound a vast amount better than mine! The RB300 arm is growing on me more and more, have put TWL's fishing weight mod on (anyone want to buy a Decca International arm??? I'm sticking with my Rega!). Got an Empire EDR9 cart on it at the moment...thanks to Gilbodavid who suggested it on Raul's recommendation. What an amazing match for the Rega arm and the Lenco. Wham...an incredible flexibility...presence and slam as well as the capacity for infinite softness and depth of timbre. And the carts only had about 30 hrs run in so far.
Only thing at the moment I'd like to improve on at the moment is my speakers. My problem is having heard Quads, i want that sound, or as close to it as I can get. My room is only 6x10 feet, so Quads arent really feasible. Am using a combination of some prototype Tannoys and Spendor BC1's at the moment...anyone got any suggestions for how to get a Quad sound in a smaller and ideally cheaper speaker?