Still looking for that turntable for your dad?
Well, if I can find the damn 2mm Thorens screws, I could mount my Denon DL160 on the stock Thorens 166 that I picked up last week in excellent condition.
If I do, I can tell you more about this combo in comparison to a Scout/SDS/Benz Ace after this weekend...
Also, not to be too pedantic, but please use a spellchecker next time. Just makes your post difficult to read :) Sorry!
Rene |
One more comments, I have a TD 150 running at my other place and it is a great table for the $100-400. More solidly built than the TD166, but not quite as nice in condition. The TD 150 is fairly close in built to the much larger TD125. Nice table for the time (the one I have is two years older than me!). Also, here is great comment on the different Thorens turntables by Dave of Vinyl Nirvana (who restores Thorens and AR): July 4, 2005
Since I sell a lot of Thorens turntables, another question I get asked a lot is, "How do I rank the Thorens belt-driven tables?" First, I should mention what models I have owned. I have owned, in numerical order: TD-125, 125 MKII, 126 MKII, 145, 145 MKII, 147, 160, 160 MKII, 160 Super, 165, and 166 MKII. For this ranking, I will concentrate just on those models that came with stock arms. (So, I need to eliminate the TD-160 Super, which did not come with stock arm.) Out of all of these models, my personal favorite is the TD-126 MKII. First, it is massive in weight. Second, it offers great flexibility in terms of just dialing in whether you want fully manual or semi-manual. Third, there is electronic speed control. Fourth, it features three logical speeds: 33, 45, and 78. (What were they thinking when they designed the 125 lineup with "16"?) Simply put, I am so astonished by the sound of a stock 126 MKII that I have not even considered upgrading the tonearm. A close second to the 126 MKII are the two 125s. However, I tend to prefer the flexibility of the 126's variable settings. I also prefer the design of the 126's dustcover. The 125 dustcover is very prone to breakage.
Below the tier of these tables is the TD-147. I am surprised how few people know of the 147. It is basically a TD-160 Super with a stock Thorens arm. So, it has an improved platter bearing, factory installed damping, heavier base, and an adjustable dustcover with METAL hinges. It also has auto-shut-off. I love the look of the 147 with the black metal plinth against the rosewood/mahogany wood sides. After the 147, I would rank the 160 and 145 as next in performance. (The 145 is basically a 160 with auto-shut off.) The 160 was my first Thorens, and I have never lost my love for it. This table produces fantastic sound for the money.
I would rank the 165/166MKII at the bottom of my list, but by no means are these awful tables. A well set-up 165/166 is a pleasure to listen to. I would argue that most ears could not discern the difference between a 160 and a 165/166 in a blind test. The essential difference between a 160 and a 165 is a plastic inner platter (rather than metal on the 160) and a motor without a clutch. In addition, the 166 MKII uses some thin mdf on the bottom which damages easily. Dave also restores and sells restored tables. Seems like a very nice guy and very helpful. His webside has much info about the different tables. Enjoy! Rene |
I used a 160 for about 20 years. I thought it a nice table for the money and bought it when I was a poor hospital intern and could'nt afford an LP12. I finally got my LP12, it was certainly better than the 160, but not that much. Eventually and finally, i bought the Origin Live Resolution, a bigger jump than Thorens to LP12. I could'nt give the Thorens away when I tried to get rid of it, not fashionable I suppose. |
There's a mod recipe for the 160 -- I'll try to find it & mail it to you. Maybe you can try googling this. The actual cost is minimal -- but there's some elbow-grease. You change the springs, remove the plasticky washers, & etc.
Keep that 160 -- or give it to a good friend. With a 3009 it plays good music. I had one eons ago with a long version of that sme...! |
Mine worked perfectly for 25 years. |
