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Is there (or could there be) such thing as High Definition Analog recordings and music reproduction, bear with me for a second, a process to engrave and read vinyl that would be in the nano tolerance. Forgive me if this is totally ridiculous but just curious to hear opinions.
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Metrlla - I'm wrong and right.

I'm right in that MFSL was pressed at half-speed from the original master tapes, as Ferrari says, but wrong in that Tower of Power Direct (and the Track Record) , were indeed Sheffield Labs records.

I'm fairly sure the Sheffields were half-speed masters too.
Sheffield Labs recordings were direct to disc as opposed to the tape transfers used by MoFi.

For those of us who were active audiophiles in the late 70's and early 80's, the name Sheffield Lab conjures up something special. Doug Sax and Lincoln Mayorga were pioneers of the Direct-to-Disc LP process, introducing the first modern "D-2-D" LP in 1968. Yes, at prior times in the history of recording, all discs were recorded direct-to-disc (e.g., 78's), since there was no tape. But the process was not used in the LP era until Doug and Lincoln made their first experimental recording in 1959, and brought out their first commercial product in 1968. For more details, see the interview with Doug and Lincoln by Raymond Chowkwanyun and myself in Positive Feedback Vol. 5 No. 4 (1995).****

However back up tapes were made of the original process, for reasons of security.

Later on in 1978 Telarc Records were to expand this process to Digital to Direct using the Soundstream Digital Recorder. The first LP released with this process was Frederick Fennel conducting the Cleveland Symphonic Winds,Telarc number 5038. No compression or editing was possible. The musicians had to be straight on from the onset of recording. These discs have a very large dynamic range and one has to be careful in setting volume levels on playback. Get stupid with one of these discs and you can kiss your speakers or amp goodbye. These were recorded in real time, what you hear is the actual performance, as if you were sitting there during the recording!!

TECHNICAL INFORMATION: This recording was made using three Schoepps/Studer transformerless omni microphones, Model SKM-52U.
Their signal was fed through a Studer Model 169 mixing console directly to the Soundstream Digital Recorder. Mastering was accomplished by sending the digital playback signal directly into the electronics of a Neumann VMS-70, SAL-74 cutting system equipped with an SX-74 cutter head.
[This Neumann system, which belongs to the JVC Cutting Center in Los Angeles, is completely transformerless and especially designed for half-speed mastering.] Mastering was done half-speed using Pyral lacquers and Adamant cutting styli. Absolutely no limiting, filtering, compression, equalization or low frequency crossover was used at any point in either the recording or mastering process. Monitoring was done using ADS Model BC-8 Broadcast Monitor loudspeakers.

SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE SOUNDSTREAM DIGITAL RECORDING SYSTEM

Frequency Response: Flat from 0 to 21 kHz (-3db at 22kHz)

Total Harmonic Distortion: At "0" VU, less than .004%

At peak levels: less than .03%

Signal to Noise: 90db RMS, Unweighted

Dynamic Range: 90db RMS, Unweighted

Sampling Rate: 50,000 samples per second

Digital Format: 16 bits linear encoding/decoding

Wow and Flutter: Unmeasurable
03-03-07: Snofun3 writes:
Metrlla - I'm wrong and right.
Sorry, Snofun3. This is what you wrote:
Try Tower of Power "Direct" from MFSL. Direct from the horns to the mics, to the cutting lathe, cutting at half speed - about the closet live reproduction you'll get.
Attributing the album to MFSL is a minor error. But thinking that a direct-to-disk album could be cut at half speed is more fundamental.

When I pointed this out, you replied:
I'm fairly sure the Sheffields were half-speed masters too.
Try again, maybe? Starter for 10 perhaps?

Regards,
Obviously, you cannot cut a Direct Disc at half speed if it's going to played back at full speed. In fact, just the opposite is desirable - the best DD's are cut at 45 rpm. And 78rpm would be even better.

I personally find Direct Disc recording to be way more of a benefit than 1/2 speed mastering anyway. I have A/B'd some of the 1/2 speed and 45rpm reissues of original "normal" 33rpm recordings and found fairly minimal differences in the 1/2 speeds. The 45 rpms make a bit more difference but won't improve an average recording to anything approaching a decent DD.
You could record a direct to disk 1/2 speed.... if the performers played at half thier normal speed and pitched down accordingly.

Okay I am joking, BUT... this is a fairly common technique used in film/ music video production.