Is analog & vinyl anoying? Is it worht it.

Pauly, I must recant. I just read your response to Shadrone wherein you admit to knowing audiophiles who are musicophiles as well as digitalphiles. Apparently not vinylphiles. Good for you. Nice to know that some digitalphiles can love music. Now, what I need to know is how much money and effort a digitalphile must spend to become a music lover. That seems to be the price of admission. :-) Ergo, the rich can enjoy music and sound, the poor can enjoy music only thru vinyl, even cheap vinyl systems. Right? :-)

Newbee, there is a price of admission, but it is more than just money.

Anybody that really likes music would want to hear it reproduced in the most accurate and natural way possible. Setting up a system to do that invariably takes time, effort and money. Anybody that feels that it is not worthwhile spending time, money and effort in this endeavor is not really serious about music.

All things equal, a CD fronted system cannot match an analogue system. Never has, never will; for all but the very lowest budget.

My apologies for not posting on the music forum. I wasn't aware it was mandatory ...

Regards
Paul

Whart,

What always gets me is the sheer explosiveness of the kickdrum at my local club, even when the band is just warming up. I don't know of any system that recreates this effectively- it is not just a question of 'loud,' or 'dynamic' or 'deep' but all of them, and more.

The vast majority of what is commercially available has been compressed in the recording, mixing and mastering process(especially drums!) - often little more than 10 db of dynamic range is left. So unless you have an unusally dynamic recording you may never hear that live kick drum sound. I would add that professional audio equipment is specifically designed to faithfully handle the extreme dynamic range and loud levels of real instruments (mostly sound reinforcement gear at concerts and studio main farfield monitors - but believe me, properly set up, these can sound quite realistic, even on a kick drum.)

Paul my post was delayed so by the time it got posted you had talked about your previous statement.
But then you go and do it again, if a music lover who is going on 70 years old would like a remote so his ageing body does not have to get up to make small adjustments he isnt a true music lover?????
I for example am disabled but I dont have a tube pre with remote, but if I could afford one I would get one as it would help me. Sorry I guess I am not a music lover.

Paul, So long as we are really only talking about which format can produce the highest quality sound we have nothing to argue about.

I just snagged some tickets to hear MTT do M7 in SF - Mahlerphiles eat your heart out!. To get ready I'm going to have to put his previous recording on one of my CDP's. If I was going to hear a performance done by Levine, I'd have to get out my LP of his performance. For me, that is all audio is really about, giving us pale but often satisfying sonic images of what a live performance might be like if we could attend.

Do post about music. The one thing this hobby really needs is an infusion of enthusiasm for music, especially jazz and classical. It won't get more popular if we just talk about audio.

Peace. Have a better day.