12 inch tonearms


Thinking about adding a 12inch tonearm to try one out.

Any thoughts and experiences, good or bad, on 12 inch arms?

Looking forward to the discussion.
dmgrant1
This has really opened my eyes to all of the possibilities. Sounds like maybe the VPI is the easiest one to set up and start with?
Rgordonpf, having owned many tts and arms, including the Schroeder and now a Shindo 12 derived from the old Ortofon 12 spring loaded arm, I have to say that ease of setting up an arm is not an indicator of it sound. I loved the Schroeder I had with my Loricraft/Garrard 501 tt. I even used it with a Decca Jubilee. It was very critical what the separation space was between the magnets, but when right it song.

Please listen first and worry about setup afterwards. I now know the benefits of a 12" arm and would buy a Schroeder in a flash were it possible to mount it on my Shindo/Garrard tt. Perhaps some day I will have this capability. I must say that the sound I get with all Shindo is extraordinary.
Tbg, I don't think you read Rgordonpf's post very carefully. He offered good comments on four different arms based on personal use. He pointed out one (the VPI) was particularly useful for anyone making frequent cartridge changes because ONCE the VTF and azimuth has been set, a second arm tube allows cartridge swaps without going through as many set up steps again. I did not read any of his statements relating sound quality to ease of initial set up.

Also Dmgrant1, don't confuse Rgordonpf's comments on ease of swapping cartridges on the VPI with initial set up. The VPI is somewhat unique in that not just the arm tube is changed but the whole upper arm above the pivot point. This means once cartridge mounting, alignment, VTF, and azimuth have been set, upper arms can be exchanged with only resetting VTA by a marked dial being necessary. Initial set up on a VPI is not particularly difficult but not necessarily easier than with others.

Regardless of which arm and which length you choose, ease of set up will relate to having the appropriate tools for the task, steady hands, and a bit of patience.
Pryso, you are right. I should have directed what I said to Dmgrant1.

I once had another arm where you entirely removed the arm, counter-weight, and cartridge and could immediately replace it. It was the Keith Monks which used four mercury baths for contacts. The VPI has a much better implementation.
Just to clarify Tbg's post above- The Shindo arm is not derived from an "Ortofon spring loaded arm." It is a Shindo arm with aesthetics paying homage to Ortofon's wonderful early work.

Best,
Jonathan