Graham Phantom vs Triplaner

Some think, that the Triplanar is still in the same class than the Phantom. Friends, totally wrong.
The Triplanar VII had a chance compared to the Graham 2.0 series, but mainly based on its simple Handling (and it was better than a Schroeder).
When the Phantom replaced the 2.0 a new chapter opened. Bob was able to improve his own - successful - Design, Tri-Mai is not able to do that.
Now with Phantom II it is from dynamic Range and from the true reproduction of colors (mainly on records pre 1990) a different Galaxy and works with much more cartridges at a superior level (the VII is great with Zyx for example but not with Lyra, Koetsu etc.).
Discussions about both Arms in one sentence should be stopped, they have nothing in common anymore.
Except the price, Phantom is way too cheap, when Triplanar is worth the money.

And the verbal floggings will continue until tonearm morale improves around here. :-)

Perhaps when one of you early adapters gets tired of your P2, or the economy bubbles again (ha-ha-ha!), more of us will get a chance at owning one. I would, however, be more interested if there was an option to not have the stem on the bottom and cut down on the number of connections. As good as it may well be, I can't help but feel continuous runs would sound even better. I'm more drawn to the Da Vinci arms at this point, but I haven't heard one of those either.

Hi Dan, I agree but I see it from a different view:
I have an amp, I tweak it with a better power cord, good cables, isolation platform, better connectors etc. and I enjoy it. After a while I bring another amp to my system, stock, unmodified and it blows away the modded one.
And the modded one will go because better is better...
In my opinion I don't care how it was made, I compare it and when it is better than the other one which has a direct cable, I don't care about direct cabling.
Here and now counts. The Graham beats them ALL even with some connections. Genius has nothing to do with some connections, he did it right. And only that counts (for me).
I strongly believe in facts, not in theoretical discussions.
Why do I write that? I guess, I want to honor someone who really tries to move something for a fair price to the discriminated analog lover in this business where Average is going to become The Reference. Not for me, but this is my personal view.

Hello me mateies I've googeled looking for the Graham p2 tone arm and non found.
Even at Graham engineering web site is this p2 arm that new.
What's described on the refined sounds from pre 90s lps is how I would describe
the sound I'm getting from my TP included system. This is a true fact for me
the more I remove from the arm that's not needed the better the sound. I'm about ready to hear what removing the curing devise yields.
Mike

Mike,

Talk to Dan_ed...he's already there with his TP (and a braver man than I).

-Richard