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Technics SL1200MK2 Cartridge Discussion

Hi,

I'd like to have a thread on cartridges that work with the Technics SL1200MK series tables.

I want to buy a Technics SL1210MK2 (the new black version from Musicians Friend) and need a cartridge recommendation. I am using a Musical Fidelity A308CR preamp that has MM/MC capability. My amps are Bryston 7B ST's and I have a pair of B&W Signature 800's on the way to replace my N801's. The MF Preamp is rolled off on top and the system is very listenable for long lengths of time. I'd describe it as detailed, but not too bright.

I really want to try the Technics table as it is relaible and inexpensive ($400 shipped or less for a used table if I go the ebay route). Please do not try to talk me into a different table. I had a VPI Scout and Dynavector 20x (High output) that I sold because I just wasn't using it. I'd like to keep this cheap so that I have decent TT available when and if I want to use it.

What can you recommed for a cart? I'd like to keep $160 to $200 as a max and stay lower if possible. Here is what I am considering:

Denon 103 (not the R)
Denon 110
Denon 160

Audio Technica 440 MLa

Shure M97xe

I do not know what carts work well with the Technics tonearm. I know that it is light and some threads recommend a Sumiko headshell for the Denons. What do I need to know here before buying a table and cart.

Thanks.
tigerwoodkhorns
sharpe
9 posts
 
The Technics 1200 series of turntables are hard to beat. It even rivals my old standby: The VPI HW19III. I got a Technics 1210 off ebay for $380 before I found out about the Musicians Friend $399 shipped deal. Mine was essentially new so I can't complain but that has led me on a cartridge quest.
I have tried a Shure m97 and the Denon 160 and found both lacking. I got a tip on the Audio Technica AT150mlx at $260 shipped from J&R and what sleeper this cart is!
It really sounds as good if not better than my other old standby: The Shure V15IV.
I have no adjust problems with the VPI as you stated but that may because of the basic tonearm (AudioQuest PT5) that came it with. Also it is a a more conventional style of turntable than the latest VPI's. And I like that old school look and feel.
But I agree that the Technics is a breeze to set up, solidly built and the quick start and stop is great, not to mention the pop up light for those late night listening sessions.
tigerwoodkhorns OP
130 posts
 
Sharpe,

The JWM9 is a different arm. Fine adjustment on the balance is difficult as the weigth slides along the arm instead of screwing.

I am not claiming that the Technics is the end all in TT's, but playing music is a breeze. With the VPI, the ritual of changing the record was difficult. The screw down clamp annoyed me and the arm wobbles like crazy (which does not make you feel secure with a $600 cart on the end). I played several records on the Technics last night and it was as I remembered growing up. Because the table starts and stops in an instant, you can change records quickly. Just give it a quick wipe and, put the arm down and close the lid. I really hated not having a dust cover on the VPI.

Most importantly, it sounds like vinyl. Nice detail and a laid back sound. I kept playing records until my wife came downstairs to compalin about the time.
johnnyb53
3,510 posts
 
03-10-08: Tigerwoodkhorns
Because the table starts and stops in an instant, you can change records quickly. Just give it a quick wipe and, put the arm down and close the lid. I really hated not having a dust cover on the VPI.
Well done!

If you want a little airier treble, leave the lid up when you play a record.

Do you have the KAB fluid damper?
spraglow
32 posts
 
I would like to dive into vinyl and since I don't have too many LPs the SL-1200 seems like a good and inexpensive choice.

Considering it is a mechanical device I prefer to buy new however I see several versions available:
1200 MkII
1210 Mk5
1210 M5G

Which is the best choice? I don't mind spending extra $100 but is it worth it? I am not a DJ.
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genesis168
409 posts
 
Spraglow, go to http://www.kabusa.com/and navigate through it. There is a chart that lists the difference is the 1200 series tables. I believe the one to get is the 1210 M5G with better 1 piece internal wiring.

I believe the finishing looks better too. I received my 1200 mk2 last week. Still looking for some spare time to tweak it. I will be using mine in an auxillary system. It's built well, sounds good and easy to work with.

Like others have said, get a better headshell. Hope it helps
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