Ok, Rcc you get "meanie of the month" award. Messin' w/ somebody's system is ; well pretty bad; esp. to prove that kind of point.--'Yer' bad. BTW, I got SR cables and the Quattro box. A week or so back I switched out some power cords--ones I owned / long time. I had just bought a new BD player and the Onkyo receiver. I didn't do 2ch for a week as new toys get higher priority. When I did get back to 2ch I noticed the sound was flat and then some. I finally got off my butt to see what the -is going on. I forgot I borrowed the cord to the Quattro box. Once that was plugged back in the magic returned----so we're not all deaf; some of us might notice--.