Sound differences between Galibier and Teres


Aside from numerous remarks about theoretical advantages based on their construction, I've never seen anything in the way of descriptive impresssions regarding the "house sound" of the Galibier and Teres lines of turntables. I have encountered references to shoot-outs, so some of you must have managed to acquire a pretty fair idea as to the personalities of each table. I've finally reached the point where I'm ready to take the jump toward possibly acquiring one or the other, but I have no "sound" idea of what to go on. I do know that I prefer a more relaxed, very slightly softer presentation as opposed to one considered a bit cleaner/sharper in outline. That's all I'll say for now, other than to extend my thanks to any of you who can let some light in the door on this subject.
opus88
Opus88,

I feel confident you will get a good handle on the strengths and house sound of each table by visiting Colorado. Unfortunately, since it's impossible to listen to the Teres and Galibier at home in your system (not to mention some of the other fine table out there), visiting Colorado is the next best alternative.

I was fortunate to hear the Serac at the RMAF and in my opinion it is a great value because you get almost all of the performance of the Stelvio at a fraction of the cost. I also had the opportunity to listen to the Redpoint Model D and it is also excellent, sharing many of the qualities of the Teres and Galibier. To my ear it sounds more like the Galibier (no surprise) and the purple anodizing is very cool! But for me, the Stelvio offered a greater value at its price point. I'd be glad to email/talk with you offline...
No question getting to know the makers is important, and visiting them in person would certainly help. I'll only say that Chris is taller but Thom has more hair!

Frank_sm,

We've tried multiple belts and have swapped with both Teres and Galibier owners. All reported similar results.

If you search my answers you'll see I've listed them in the past, ranked in order, but to summarize: on these tables the best performing belt material we know of is the 1/2" holographic mylar sold by McCormick's. Item # 6033665.

This material, which is slightly thicker than .002", is what Galibier uses for their belts. Teres supplies belts made from .002" clear mylar. The holographic is slightly better than the clear .002" at maintaining pace through transients. Either one is MUCH better than .001".

One minor problem with the holographic mylar is that it can shed the silver backing material over time, onto your platter and/or motor capstan. I'm working on a fix but haven't gotten 'round to trying it yet.

I don't know what Galibier's motor capstans are made of. Teres used to use delrin but newer motors have another material. I'm not sure what it is (maybe resin-impregnated glass fiber?) but the surface is a little rougher, which might make for less slippage.

No tensioner (yet) though it's an interesting idea. I assume you've seen Frank Schroeder's prototype table? He showed one at RMAF that incorporated that concept.
Dougdeacon,

BTW, as someone who is 'follicularly impaired', I resemble that remark (...sigh...). Thanks for the tip on the belt. I was fortunate to hear the Schroeder prototype at RMAF and it was excellent sounding. If I remember correctly, they were showing with Artemis Labs and Verity.
Cmk,

I just noticed your remark about visiting during a future visit to the US. You'd be most welcome of course! We're in Connecticut, about 2 hours from NYC or Boston. Where are you? We visit family in the UK every couple of years...

Jazdoc,

Sorry for the folicular folly. I inherited my mom's (luscious) hair but also my dad's (puny) physique. Please feel free to tag along with Cmk and beat me to a pulp, unless my 135 lb. frame scares you off.

Enjoy the Stelvio. That's a killer table.
Hi Doug
Thanks for the invitation. I'll contact you once I've more definite details about my trip.

Happy spinning.