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Vinyl vs. top-notch digital

I have never had an analogy rig. My CD player is a Meridian 800, supposedly one of the very best digital players out there. From what I've read, it appears there is a consensus in our community that a high-quality analog rig playing a good pressing will beat a top notch digital system playing a well-recorded and mastered CD. So here are my questions:

1) How much would one have to invest in analog to easily top the sound quality of the Meridian 800 (or similar quality digital player)? (Include in this the cost of a phono-capable preamp; my "preamp" right now is a Meridian 861 digital surround processor.)

2) How variable is the quality of LPs? Are even "bad" LPs still better than CD counterparts?

Thank you for any comments and guidance you can provide.
jeff_arrington
jdaniel13
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If you can find me a turntable/cart combo that makes "O Fortuna" (of Carmina Burana) sound that same both in the opening grooves and the last grooves (the piece opens and closes with the same material), please tell me about it. Maybe a linear tracker?

Or take the spectacular closing of Boito's Mephistopheles Prelude: huge orchestra, chorus, thunder machine, pipe organ, off-stage trumpets, floor-rattling percussion, (gives me goosebumps just thinking about it); it's all just too much for those last grooves.
dan_ed
2,451 posts
 
Yeah, and then there is the cannons. "yawn" I don't know where you live but if you can get over my way I'd be more than happy to take you up on your challenge.

This theory that there is an inherent flaw in tracking the inner grooves of vinyl is an urban legend propped up by less capable equipment and/or setup skills.

Hi-rez, that which we can reasonably purchase for our homes, still does not give me as good a presentation as vinyl.
mikelavigne
2,199 posts
 
to echo Dan's comments, i'll be glad to compare any digital hi rez format to the inner grooves on any of my classical Lps.

yes; i've owned world class linear tracker arms and they do give you some benefits. however, the better and best pivoted arms properly set up eliminate any audible inner groove distrotion. i have many reference and test tracks that happen to be in the inner grooves without ever needing to concern myself.

as far as Carmina Burana, i have 4 or 5 pressings of it....and another 3 or 4 digital examples of it. come on over and let's do the comparison.
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mapman
22,200 posts
 
Not all grooves are created equal.

Just one of the snafus of 33 1/3 lp vinyl.

Better rigs will care less.

All formats have snafus. You just have to choose your pleasure/poison and then make it work.
dan_ed
2,451 posts
 
Mike, I know you'll appreciate this. I heard a pivoted Talea laugh out loud at a Kuzma Airline. The Kuzma does have something special when playing girl with acoustic guitar. But as soon as you add the second girl with guitar the Kuzma didn't know what to do with the extra vibrations so it just dumped them back into the cartridge. Linear trackers have their own set of problems.

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