Feickert analogue protractor....Owners impressions


I'm contemplating the purchase of this brand of protractor.

Over the years I have relied on a good friend to mount cartridges and set up the few tables that I have owned in the past.
Relying on someone else to do this was for good reason.

I would never make it as a watch maker or any other profession that requires a fine touch and skill with steady hands.
The time has come where I will have to do this totally on my own.

My question to you owners of the Feickert protractor is what is your experience with it regarding ease of use and accuracy compared to other protractors?

Secondly, the disk has strobe markings for speed set up, does the Feickert package come with a strobe light for the $250. selling price?

I asked these question of a dealer sent via a e-mail and have not received a reply as of yet.

Thank you for your replies.
stiltskin
Here's the email I got from Ken..... for all the other SME owners out there.

"I'm assuming the SME III uses the typical SME adjustable base mount. Does it also have slots in the headshell? If it does, I need to know what mounting distance you want to use. If it does not, I would not recommend using this type of protractor. I'd stick with whatever SME provides for it. The reason is that if the headshell does not have slots, the effective length (mounting distance plus overhang) cannot be adjusted for different cartridges. The effective length of the arm changes with every different cartridge that is used in it because there is no standard for the location of the stylus in relation to the location of the mounting screws. The accuracy of the alignment using this protractor is completely dependent on the mounting distance. Every mounting distance has a unique overhang and effective length associated with it. If the headshell has no slots, the cartridge cannot be moved in the headshell to compensate for the longer or shorter cantilever length. If the cartridge is in a fixed position, but the cantilever length changes, this changes the position of the stylus which changes the effective length. Since every effective length has a unique mounting distance associated with it, changing the effective length requires a different mounting distance. It would be easy enough to move the base of the SME arm to a different mounting distance, but then a different offset angle is required. If the cartridge is fixed in the headshell, the offset angle is also fixed."
04 rdking,
For the reasons stated by Ken is why I measured my effective length before ordering.
The SME jig does the same thing because it is driven by effective length and you move the mounting distance to make it's adjustment. I just find the arc protracter easier to work with than the SME jig. I have enough play in my cartridge mounting to adjust offset.

Mike
Using the Graham B-44 factory alignment jigs to position the arm for the spindle pivot distance and then to mount the cartridge.
The end result , I found them to be of ease of use, well thought out and a very accurate design.

Once the Feikert protractor arrived, I checked my set up against the Graham factory jigs and my ability of using them.

First up , the Feikert read a pivot to spindle distance of 216.5 mm for the Graham Phantom arm.
Next step I was able to land the stylus on the first point of reference with little problem. It was bang on the mark.
The third step which took a little longer, was to position the stylus in a grid to check to see if the cantilever is parallel with the lines on the grid, which it was. Oh yes, the Feikert disk is reflective.

For us older guys, this is where a photographers lope and mag light came in handy.

Thinking about it as I type this, did I need to buy protractor? I also have the MintLp arc tractor on its way too.

Using an arc protractor made specific for my arm and table is going to be interesting.

Its a learning experience for me, its fun and in the end I will have complete piece of mind knowing the geometry of my arm and cartridge are exactly to spec.

Good Listening

Mark


Stiltskin, let us know your impressions on the Mint LP after using it. Also, when this is all done, let us know your impressions for all 3 (Phantom own jig, Feickert, MintLp) and the one you would highly recommend. Perhaps the Graham supplied jig is all you need and the Feickert and MintLp become redundant.
All the best......
Smoffatt, Will do.

I think with being caught up with the excitement of some new equipment that recently arrived ,I felt that I should have another protractor as a 2nd reference, just to be sure.

As it stands , the Graham jigs are exceptional, including the Feikert protractor.
Both use a design method of detentes where the Feikert locks into a disk template that sits on the platter like an Lp.

The Graham jig detentes are in the head shell.
Another huge advantage with the Graham cartridge jig is that you can unscrew the arm tube and hold it in any position you need to, to get the job done.

As mentioned above regarding arc protractors, Ken Willis is said to make an exceptional protractor for $50.00.

From there, the Wally and MintLp tractor.

I'm sure there are other highly accurate and easy to use tractors available that may equal the ones mentioned.

For any ones interest, this post to date is approaching 3000 views.

If anyone has a question regarding set up of your own table, arm and cartridge, DO ASK.

It DOES NOT matter what you own.

Fear not.

There is a long list of highly experienced members here with friendly advice and guidance.