Thomasheisig, I think these are cartridges, right? If so, your question is one that I cannot answer. I have no idea whether investing $8000 plus in a Halcyonics and $2000 in a turntable, arm, and cartridge can rival a $10,000 turntable, arm, and cartridge. I do think it is saying a lot that I won't speculate, however.