Much earlier in this thread I made an indication of the best speaker I have ever heard. These speakers were not set up in an ideal environment , but yet I was blown away by them .I would like to point out that a speaker cannot be evaluated on their own. The room and its acoustics, the connected equipment and cables , the ac supply , the recording , even the time of day , all play a part to the listening experience . Unlike headphones , there are to many variables . We all would have differing opinions to greater or lesser degrees, if the same speakers were set up in different environments. We are all aware of the complexities of putting a system together, making each component work with the rest (according to our own individual tastes ). I personally would like to know other facts about the system/room in which speakers have been determined "best". If this is the beginning of another thread, that was not my intention. When I or someone else says that " these are the best speakers I have ever heard " , the listening conditions are important and critical. I hope I have not upset anybody. The pursuit of perfection , when it comes to listening to recorded music over these years , has made me highly critical ( which is not always a good thing ). Thank you , Dan