Enough detail or too much?

" If your system is overly picky of recordings, with comparatively few sounding acceptable on it, it is usually a sign that not all is well."

Getting as many recording to sound good/acceptable as possible is the best way to tune any system at any price point IMHO . If the best and the more compromised recordings, both old and new, all draw you into the music regardless, then you are in the zone where you want to be.

If it is on the record, I want to hear ALL of it the way it was recorded. If it is not on the record, I don't want to hear anything added. That is my goal.

Most of the really good studio albums that I have sound much better in my listening room than they ever do when I see the group live. This could be a result of the music that I like, blues, rock. alt, 60's and 70's stuff. I have seen some of these concerts at Carnegie Hall and a good recording always sounds better than live.

Example: James Taylor live with all the burping, farting, feedback and other extraneous noises present at a live event or a nice vinyl pressing, well engineered, then played back through my system....it's not even close,

Anyone else feel this way??

live/studio: apples/oranges

Both should sound different but still good when things go well.

Both can also sound crappy when not.

The only things that we listeners can control and adjust to our tastes is 1) our systems and 2) our seats at live events.

Dear Tzh2ly: Too much?, IMHO that depends what we are hearing in live events and what we are hearing in our systems.

If we attend to hear jazz/blues in a small night-club where we are seat(ed) close to the jazz/blues group we can hear how detailed/transparent is the music a lot more detailed than in any home system, when we hear the cymbals in that group the detail, speed, decay time, distortions, etc, etc can't even in any home audio system. We are near the source in this case and our perception is different than in other music live events where we are not so near the source.

By the contrary if we are hearing classical music in a big hall we are hearing at least at around 15-20m. from the source ( way back ) when the micros are at only 3m, not only that but in this kind of hall the seats and the people that are surrounded to our seat " absorb/reflect " the orchresta sound and the hall own reverberant time and absortion/difusion/reflection characteristics make that things comes totally different from what we can hear at home, normally we hear this kind of live events a little in the " dark " side against our audio systems.

Now and from my several experiences through my audio life and through the many audio systems that I already heard there are other factors that alter what we are hearing at home in our audio systems ( on the subject of: too much?. ) and one of those factors is " distortion "( any: IMD, THD, noise, Colorations, etc, etc.. ) that we are hearing at more high level that we can imagine.

For different reasons ( one of that is our own hearing loss, another could be that we are not too experienced in the different instruments real sound. ) we like that " transparency/brigth/spark " ( I mean: too much, not natural one. ) and almost always that " over-life "/spark/brightness it is nothing but high DISTORTIONS in the audio systems, distortions that are not on the recording but that were generated through the audio systems, is it familiar to any one of you/us the next sentences?
: " this cable makes a difference in my system: is more detailed on high frequencies. ", " Hey this tonearm is really better specially on high frequencies, now I have the " spark " that I have not before ", " Wow this amplifier really shine, specially at the top frequency range ", " Hey with this change of cable/capacitor/tonearm/etc I heard like I win 1-2db ( SPL ) in the system response ", " I don't like this change ( cable or whatever. ) the sound " sounds " lower and with out " Life ", etc, etc.

Normally these kind of " reactions " are telling us about changes in distortions ( usually higher ) that we perceive in better/easy way in the top frequency range and like a change in the SPL.

All those sentences but the last one are speaking of adding distortions to our system making that we will be faraway from what is in the recording, through the time that " beautiful " transparency/spark will tell that something is wrong and we take the endless attitude to following to change some audio links in the audio chain.

The last sentence normally tell me that I lower the distortions ( somewhere ) and if we are patience ( we need in deep know-how ) through the time we will take in count that all the " sound " is there ( better than before ) but now is more neutral ( that's why we hear a little " life-less ", lower SPL and even in the " dark " side. ) and truer to the recording. Of course that always could be that the recording is overbright and distorted.

When we can discern on " distortions " and neutrality then we are near the top of the overall audio systems learning curve and will enjoy better than ever the music reproduction in our home systems and grow-up in the right direction.

How can we discern in a precise way?, how can we tell when is distortion and when is neutral? how can we know when that " too much " is really a true improvement and not distortion? hard to say because this judgement is know-how that each one of us already achieve through our audio life and that each one of us can improve if we have the right attitude to do it: a LEARNING one.

There are some other factors that contribute on the subject but that could be for other thread.

Btw, I'm not saying that all what I posted here is the " bible ": NO, it is only a part of my learning curve that I share with you.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.