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Dert

you give a very vague answer when you state ..."or give a listen to a TT with a different concept. In other words - do audition a TT with comparable platter size and mass, but with a working low frequency suspension. The difference in low level resolution, bass speed, authority and "air" and the sudden lack of "grain" may give a completely new perspective on the performance and requirements of TTs.
name names, what manufacturer employs these concepts? which might I add are at or near the price point of the TW Raven?

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braab

Braa........ make your selection, choose the names you like - look around on A'gon and the magazines. Giving names here would just mean taking position and raising new potential for dispute.
But - to give just one idea.... - J.C.Verdier does offer 2 TT's in the price range of the TW Raven AC1 and AC3.
You'll find more.....

Have fun,
D.

Hi DT...,
am I correct in assuming the 'Platine Verdier' does NOT use a motor controller, and therefore relying on belt slip/creep, platter mass, and controlled bearing friction to 'cancel' the effects of cogging?
Axel

Hi Axel,
before we go back to 1.class school:
Do you know what a motor has to do?
To fight a battle?

Trying to "controll" a heavy platter in motion with 33 1/3 rpm by a "motor" is a nice try. You have a constant "war" between the inertia of the platter and the torque and regulation of the motor.
I am sure we will have several protagonists for this principle here on Audiogon and in the "audiophile" community.
But we will find no protagonists for this principle among technical engineers.
Why ?
Well - obvious reasons, once it is given a serious and undogmatic view.
Direct coupling with quartz or whatever controlled high torque and precise motor giving the "pace" will always work quite well with low mass (= low inertia) platter.
Never against inertia.
We would then look at constant "war" with lots of tiny speed changes and everything but really constant revolution.