Da Vinci AAS Gabriel


Hi,
I read the TAS review of this USD60K tt. Has any audiogoner out there any first hand experience with this tt and can share opinions? I currently use the TW Acustic Raven AC3 tt with the Davinci arm and cartridge. Wondering if it is worthwhile at all to switch to the AAS Gabriel tt.
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Braa........ make your selection, choose the names you like - look around on A'gon and the magazines. Giving names here would just mean taking position and raising new potential for dispute.
But - to give just one idea.... - J.C.Verdier does offer 2 TT's in the price range of the TW Raven AC1 and AC3.
You'll find more.....

Have fun,
D.
Hi DT...,
am I correct in assuming the 'Platine Verdier' does NOT use a motor controller, and therefore relying on belt slip/creep, platter mass, and controlled bearing friction to 'cancel' the effects of cogging?
Axel
Hi Axel,
before we go back to 1.class school:
Do you know what a motor has to do?
To fight a battle?
Trying to "controll" a heavy platter in motion with 33 1/3 rpm by a "motor" is a nice try. You have a constant "war" between the inertia of the platter and the torque and regulation of the motor.
I am sure we will have several protagonists for this principle here on Audiogon and in the "audiophile" community.
But we will find no protagonists for this principle among technical engineers.
Why ?
Well - obvious reasons, once it is given a serious and undogmatic view.
Direct coupling with quartz or whatever controlled high torque and precise motor giving the "pace" will always work quite well with low mass (= low inertia) platter.
Never against inertia.
We would then look at constant "war" with lots of tiny speed changes and everything but really constant revolution.
Well,
1. Klasse or not. If I read the response it'd tell me that "Platine Verdier" can not work as a top tt should work, because it is at constant "war" with the -constant- bearing friction... hm,?!?

Hey, I guess I'm not ready for this engineering-101 type of analysis yet. Something tells me this is more opinion then knowledge based analysis :-)

One fact to be considered: motors (most? all?) in order to perform correctly/steadily - AC to make sure, since DC is all over the place due to other issues, need to operate AGAINST some sort of load, the more constant the better.

This would completely contradict this almost 'free-wheeling' notion that I seem to hear by Syntax.
Thomas, were did you obtain your engineering degree? In the 2. Klasse then?
Greetings,
Axel