VPI Classic - Now you have one......

Here was the set up:

Aries 1 with JMW 10.5 tonearm and Dynavector XX2 and Zoethecus stand
Aries 3 with JMW 10.5i tonearm with Dynavector XX2 and Zoethecus stand
VPI Classic with JMW 10.5se tonearm with Dynavector XX2 and Zoethecus stand

The same dyna xx-2 was used in all set ups and was calibrated with a VPI jig in the Aries 1 and a Mint tractor specific for JMW 10.5i and 10.5se in the Aries 3 and Classic. Same downstream system for all three set ups. VTA and VTF determined by same process in all three tables.

We felt we were very accurate in comparing 'apples to apples' about as much as we could. We even tried the paper and rubber mat the aluminum platter comes with in the Classic on and off and liked the Classic without any mat on the platter best. But in our set up and comparison, the Classic fell behind the other two tables by a not insignificant margin.

Oh yeah, and we used an SDS in all three set ups too. Unanimous that the SDS helped all three tables.

Thx for the follow-up.

I must say that one of the more frustrating things about high-end audio choices is to read completely different opinions on the same product, which tend to leave others quite confused. Especially when meaningful auditioning is not possible. A vinyl specialist from a very respected and popular dealer shop that has been in business for decades had this to say about the Classic:
"We basically recommend the VPI Classic over everything under the $5100.00 Basis 2000/Basis Rega arm...[The Classic] is well-built to even the most casual observer. Heavy and stable, with big, adjustable feet, it is easy to set up and not prone to accidental misadjustment or drift of tonearm or suspension geometries. The JMW 10.5i tonearm can be damped with silicone fluid which allows some tailoring of the tonearm's performance and sound, and it will work well with the Soundsmith Aida's slender physique. The soundstage is large and deep with precise imaging, the bass is solid and the midrange and high frequency response is detailed and smooth. We think it is an all around best buy."

This was in response to my question whether he would recommend the NA Space 294 over the Classic. They carry both brands so I have no reason not to trust this salesperson's opinion, especially since the Space 294 is much more expensive than the Classic. Certainly the majority of professional reviews have been very positive, which leads me to believe that it is not the table as much as the different tastes of those who don't rate it as highly as most.

The table that I had before the Classic was an Aries 1 with a 10.5 arm and the original, and much desired, original platter.

I never liked that table. I had it with an SDS, permiter ring, and a wonderful Gingko isolation table. It always sounded bright to me, although the SDS definitely helped.

When I got the Classic, I hooked it up the same way as the Aries, and it sounded better right out the box. Much less bright, with great extension and speed. Also, I found no difference with the SDS hooked up, or with it off, so I sold that, and the Gingko platform made no difference either, so I sold that too.

I love the Classic. The only issue that I have had at all, is hum when my Grado The Reference 1 (Statement) is over the platter. VPI has told me that is due to the lack of any shielding with the Grado. They did say, and I agree, that the slight hum is worth it due to the excellent sound they make together, and they suggested keeping the cartridge, and they are working on how to eliminate the hum.