Please recommend used tonearm under $1K


longer than 9" preferable, to be used with an SP-10MK2 and Virtuoso MM cartridge. The tonearm does not have to be modern. In fact, something vintage that can be easy to source through here or eBay is fine.

I favor rock, so dynamics and slam are crucial. Good imaging and soundstage DEPTH are also important.

The bonus is if the arm keeps solid value because I eventually want to move up to the Trans-Fi T3.
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If you actually read what I originally said I agreed that the 801 was a good arm. If you read contemporary reviews no one thought at the time that it was "the best" arm. The EPA 500, which I had at the same time was a better arm, as were others I have used. I preferred the Zeta, Ittok, SME 4, SME 309, VPI 12.7, Graham 2.2 and probably the Fidelity Research 64. I would still recommend a very good NEW arm [the Jelco 750] over a 30 year old used arm for the average user. I cannot understand how expressing a personal preference for one product over another somehow denigrated the less favored product. My opinions are just that, opinions. I do not confuse them with infallible pronouncements that somehow affect the structure of the universe. Since you don't think I know what I am talking about why do you CARE what I think. You appear to be one with Augustine in regarding it to be a sin to let another remain in error. Let me warn you, that path leads to the Spanish Inquisition.
Dear Stanwal: That you even prefer that FR64 " crap " of tonearm put things in real perspective.

Anyway, to each one his own.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
Dear all, an tonearm is an mechanical 'device' so one should think that the most issues are 'objective' in 'nature' or according to physical Laws . As Raul put it 'its all about the design'. He should elaborate on this 'argument' more but there are many contributions from him to found his opininon. But there is also the so called 'subjective part'. I really love my Triplanar VII and each time I hear some negative statement about 'my' Triplanar I get angry. Ie our hobby is full of emotions. I even think that this is the essence of our hobby.
Despite of this I am very interested in the 'objective' issues and curious to learn from Raul, Dertonarm and others
about the the essence of the tonearm design. I personaly am
very glad that we have such persons in our forum.

Regards,
Dear nandric: Agree.

Unfortunatelly there are at least two " subjective " factors that affect our each one objective side. One is the subjective hearing ( what we heard. about ) and the other is that we want " win " the controversy and always are the " emotions " down there.

IMHO the main point/subject/target in this Agon Forum is not only give an opinion to " win " or whatever but to help the other people with no commercial interest on mind.
I'm not saying that in this thread any one could have a commercial attitude, no.

regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
Dear Raul, Your 'subjective factors' are of course involved
but I disagree regarding the 'subjective hearing'. As I put
it elswhere 'we hear' (normal hearing pressuposed) in the same way. But we do interpret what we hear with all our brain, experience,knowledge, sensitivitys, talents,etc. And there the 'equality' omong us ends. You can't compare
Mozart with 'any other' composer; an real genius is incomprehensible to us. I have some professional musicians
as friends (Concert Gebouw) and thought that they 'hear different' then I. But this is an wrong description. They
know much more about the music and are much better educated in this 'part' of human activity then I am. So there is not much sensible 'contribution' from my side when they visit me for some listening sessions. They are,so to speak, on an other level then I. I have,btw, no problem with this 'truht' because we have an tremendous
division of labour or activitys.
Regards,

Regards,