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disappointing VPI 16.5 performance??

I just got my 16.5 up and running. I chose to throw some challenging records at it right away because they are really the reason I got the VPI. One is an older recording of a couple oboe sonatas. The other is a brand new Metallica re-master by MoFi.both continue to have high surface noise: the oboe recording seems to have tiny spots all over it, like spotty glasses after washing dishes. It was like that when I got it. The Metallica was horribly contaminated right out of the jacket: debris, "gunk", paper strands, etc.

I'm using MoFi Deep Cleaner, Super Wash, and their brushes, with a double distilled rinse with the VPI brush. Is there something else I can try. There has been some improvement, but not as much I'd like to see.
ethanw
ethanw OP
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I am new to RCM's. If memory serves me correctly, I tried to post that two records are hardly a good sample, and that I later had much better luck with LP's that are known to be in good shape. That post seems to not be here. It was either on another forum (certainly possible) or someone decided it wasn't relevent.

I'm aware of poor newer pressings, and that the older record could be damaged (also in another post from me, maybe in another forum, if so, my mistake). I was just looking for any ideas relating to record cleaning fluids that could perhaps give me a hail Mary chance at cleaning these two if it's possible. I've given up on the Metallica. I've read MANY reviews about how awful those remasters are. I've mostly given up hope on the Poulenc as well. Probably damaged.I never asked for suggestions for another machine, so I was tending NOT to blame it. I guess I was kind of questioning if I was dissapointed in the machine or not, hence the ?? in the title. I can now say that I am not. Maybe I worded things poorly.
markd51
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Ethan, I hope my reply makes it here, as I just wanted to say, that experience will be the best teacher. All will no doubt certainly agree.

In short time, you'll be an old pro. With the VPI 16.5, good cleaners-rinses, and techniques, you'll have a very good feel, and knowledge of what can be accomplished, and what cannot.

After a good number of records are "under your belt" so to speak, you'll then better understand-realize that the flaws on the occasional record will most likely not be the machine, or cleaners at fault.

I've followed with you in the other forums, and I know all will be well. Best of luck! Mark
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daveyf
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Ethan, you may want to look into a product called Gruv Glide... it's a spray on
lubricant type product and may/should help with some of the surface noise.
Generally, I have had good results with this when a LP seems fairly unlistenable
after a VPI wash.
Nonetheless, as several other posters have stated, if the record is too damaged, then really nothing is going to help completely
ethanw OP
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Thanks folks, now I just have to get cleaning!
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