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Schroder sq and the new talea

I heard there was to be a fun time of learning and comparing of these two arms at the rmaf. Since the talea is relatively new, it still has to stand the test of time with comparisons on other tables, other systems and the selective and subjective tastes of discerning audiophiles! There is to be a comparison in one of the rooms at the rmaf this year, which i wasnt able to make. I would be curious to hear some judicial, diplomatic, friendly talk about how they compared to each other in the same system and room. I currently own the origin live silver mk3 with a jan allaerts mc1bmk2 and am enjoying this combo but have become curious about the more popular "superarms" Hats off to both frank and joel.

I hope this thread draws more light rather than heat. If someone preferred one arm over the other it would be OK. With all the variables it doesnt mean that much to me. What matters to me is what it sounds like to me and in my room. With that said...

What was your bias? was it for the schroder or the talea?

cheers!...
vertigo
goldeneraguy
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Dgad, 10 steps,wonderful.I recall my son taking his first steps walking toward the turntable while Dizzy was blowing his horn on "No More Blues" from On The Riviera.
What happened to your Phantom ? Oh no did she.......
dan_ed
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The Talea bearing pivot, should it ever need replacement, can be replaced with a small allen wrench that is included in the kit. Lift out, drop in, snug up the set screw. The jewel cup is slightly more difficult, but can be pressed in and out by hand, assuming one has strong fingers. In any case, it is pretty much a field replacement. I've done it myself on a prototype model after Joel sent me an update to the bearing. And, the Telea bearing doesn't adjust itself as the stylus tracks across the grooves.
dertonarm
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Dave, I think Atmasphere was not referring to "wear" when he noted the superior rigidity of the Triplanar vis a vis the Schroeder or Talea.
This is about the ability of a given tonearm to transfer energy ( mechanically .... but it has huge sonic impacts ).
The feature of being able to "adjust" a magnetic bearing and thus the produced "tone" may indeed sound attractive and tempting to some.
lewm
12,988 posts
 
DT, Herb Papier, inventor of the Triplanar, lived in Wheaton, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, DC. Hence the origin of the original full name of the tonearm. Triplanar moved to Minnesota after Herb died, so the "Wheaton" moniker is no longer appropriate.

The Triplanar has been my primary tonearm for 15 years. I like it very much, but I am perfectly willing to believe (i) that the overall excellence of phono reproduction depends nearly as much upon tonearm/cartridge matching as it does on the excellence of the tonearm design, and (ii) that some other tonearm design could be "better" using my favorite cartridges. I am happy to see that Talea, Reed, Schroeder are not afraid to attempt to advance the state of the art, and perhaps they have. We all benefit if these guys are successful. By the way, whither the Grandezza?
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syntax
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... but I am perfectly willing to believe (i) that the overall excellence of phono reproduction depends nearly as much upon tonearm/cartridge matching as it does on the excellence of the tonearm design, and (ii) that some other tonearm design could be "better" using my favorite cartridges. I am happy to see that Talea, Reed, Schroeder are not afraid to attempt to advance the state of the art, and perhaps they have...

May I say, that dreaming or believing has nothing to do with knowledge, engineering and real quality from geometrics and material mix?
I am impressed, that the Statement "State-of-The -Art" is given so easily.

May I ask why? I think, their pricing is State of the Art and from what do we benefit if these guys are successful?
Empty wallet? I agree, then walking is a bit easier...and can someone please explain what do I have from a perfect cartridge/tonearm matching when the Arm itself is nothing special?
A real State-of-the-art Arm will give you better sonic results even with cartridges which are a bit outside of the 8-12 range. This is completely useless, too because wood, titan, composite, aluminum, tubes dampened inside, has total different energy transfer rates...or quality of bearing, ability to guide a cartridge etc.
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