New to TT's some advice questions


Hi all,

I have not owned a TT since the 80's. All I remember is that is was a Pioneer.

I am looking to add a table to my to be combined HT/Stereo rig.

In the the $2k to $3k range without cartridge are there some initial suggestions you can make? How complicated is it to set-up and maintain a TT? I don't think I am a stupid guy but ease of use would be nice I suppose. Just kicking things off and I would like some info before I go to the dealer. They have a used Scout Master (18 months) I believe he stated and I believe it has a Benz Cartridge but I cannot remember the one from the initial phone chat.

I am actually going to audition a pre/amp, Simaudio P-7 and I would really like to get into vinyl so I want to purchase at the same time. Currently I just have a Rega Saturn CDP.

It will be safe to say that Simaudio will most likely be the pre/amp in some flavor. I have a Simaudio Titan multi-channel amp and perhaps I will add a stereo amp someday but that is what I have for now. Speakers are Dynaudio Confidence C1 and REL B1 sub.

If you could give some suggestions I would appreciate it. Other forum sites have also suggested ClearAudio.

Anyone with thoughts on Simaudio phono pre-amp?

Thanks so much...
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Thanks Guys for your feedback. I believe I am committed. I just love my speakers so much. I have been using a the NAD Masters M15 since I have owned the Dynaudio Confidence C1s and the Simaudio will be my first stereo pre/amp.

I have not listened to CDs etc like I would like to. I went in to audition a new HT pre/pro to replace my NAD and during the audition I enjoyed the experience so much (listened to a Classe stereo pre/amp). I didn't but these wonderful speakers (my opinion) just for HT and I am ready for the next level.

I research everything to death before I audition. The salesman at the store is strongly suggesting I listen to a used unit they are selling for someone. I believe he stated it was a Scoutmaster and I do not remember the cartridge. A $4500 rig at $2200 I think he said. 18 months old. We will see but I am just trying to be armed with my own opinions thru suggestions and research before I go.

My taste is classic rock, pop and Jazz and R&B. I really have enjoyed listening to some piano and other intrumentals as the C1s are great for this.

I want to check out the Simaudio stereo pre/amp, cleaner and a cartridge are not part of my listed budget.

A short list from the little bit of research.
Music Hall MMF 9.1
Rega P7
Project RM10.1
VPI Classic 1 or 2
VPI Scoutmaster (the used unit)

The VPI Classic seems to get some really excellent reviews here. Whats the diff between Classic 1 and 2?

Thanks guys...
Of the ones you listed, go with VPI, IMO. Personally, I favor a vintage Lenco or Denon for low buck pleasure (<$1000), but if I were to choose the Denon option, I would go for something above the DP47 suggested above. The Denons are still undervalued and so there is not much difference (a few hundred bucks) in the cost of a DP47 and, for example, the top of that line, the DP80, which can hold its own with a Technics SP10 Mk2. (DP80s have become rather rare to find, I admit.) The DP6000 and DP62 and 57 are other lesser but still good ones to look for. For the amount of dough quoted above, you might also find a revamped and ready to use SP10 Mk2.
For vinyl newbies, I generally recommend buying thru a trusted local dealer who can help you out with all the set up issues (Cartridge matching,VTA,VTF etc..).

VPI,Clear Audio,Rega,Nottingham,and Well Tempered are some Mfg's that come to mind that have good (new) product in your price range.

While you would undoubtedly get more for your money buying used, I generally advice against that for newbies. Once you have some experience, no problem.
Boy, there are a lot of good turntables at that price range. For a sampler, go here. Offerings from JA Michell, Thorens, Rega, Roksan, Sota, Origin Live, Clearaudio, Rega P7, Pro-Ject, Music Hall ...

Over at MusicDirect we have the Avid Diva II, VPI Classic I plus various versions of the Scout and Scoutmaster that fit your budget.

The two that have me most intrigued at this price point are the Well-Tempered Amadeus at $2895 list and the Townshend Rock 7 with damper trough at about $3K. Both are available in the US, but I don't know where offhand.
First, let me say I have sold and sell Lenco turntables.
The Lenco is a killer at your price point. For about $2k you can have a refurbished, replinthed piece of art that will certainly meet your needs. Easy to use, hassle free and a very easy synergistic match for almost any phono stage.
Easy match because with most plinthed Lencos, you choose which arm and cart you can afford and what will be a good match. Many Lenco owners find the inexpensive Rega 300 to be an excellent arm and a Denon 103 cart to be a wonderful combination.
Later, if you decide to move up to a better arm/cart combo, the sky is the limit since most Lencos come with 2 armboards which are simple to change/replace.
Lenco idler wheel drive allows for stable, steady speed which translates to deep, defined and tuned bass. Overall tonal balance is superb and constant. Unlike belt drive which tends to stretch and slip, the vintage Lenco continues to amaze after 30+ years.
I've had folks sell their Well Tempered, VPI, Rega, Music Hall and Nottingham tables within weeks of hearing how a Lenco can bring vinyl to life.
Go to Lencoheaven.com and continue to research.
Good luck and happy hunting!