Uni-Protractor Set tonearm alignment


Looks like Dertonarm has put his money where his mouth is and designed the ultimate universal alignment tractor.

Early days, It would be great to hear from someone who has used it and compared to Mint, Feikert etc.

Given its high price, it will need to justify its superiority against all others. It does look in another league compared to those other alignemt devices

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?anlgtnrm&1303145487&/Uni-Protractor-Set-tonearm-ali
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Dear Genesis168: +++++ " Numbers and numbers don't matter. " +++++

this is not what I try to explain in my last post. Your statement is to " dramatic " for say the least.

IMHO " numbers " always matter if you know where and how matters and its importance level ( your skills to interpret/translate what numbers are saying. ): where numbers makes " the differences "?, when you have the answers to this question you will understand the importance of numbers.

Of course that are " numbers " and " numbers ", some makes a difference, some did not and some are informative or just academic.

As an examples: we need numbers to make the cartridge/tonearm set up ( overhang or pivot to spindle distance. ), sensitivity/efficiency speaker level, RIAA eq. curve deviations, current power capacity on amplifiers, damping factor, room/speaker set up, etc, etc.

With out this kind of " numbers " we can't make/take and decide from different alternatives for the better.

Till today I still support that if we want to improve the quality performance level in our each one audio system one of the best way to go is: lowering distortions ( every kind ) in every audio link in the audio system chain.

In some of the audio links the " numbers " ( for accuracy levels, frequency range, THD, IMD, deviations, etc, etc. ) help a lot to decide what to do and you know what: our ears heard it.

Of course that " numbers " does not matters if what we are hearing is a poor and low quality level of sound.

I'm like you on the main importance with the quality level in the sound we listen through our systems and all my " ideas " and " adventures " that I take in my system ( changes. ) have as only target: improve its quality performance level and this IMHO you can't do it with out subjects as: accuracy and " numbers ".

I'm for a good sound in my ears but over this I always prefer a good accurate and " non-distortions " sound reproduction that only " good sound ".

IMHO I think that we should not be on these extremes: only sound or only numbers.

How good are our skills/knowledge levels to make " the right " blend/mixture on those extremes is what will define the quality level in each one audio home system.

Of course that as you posted: " We are free to try and make up our minds. ".

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
Dear Nandric: I don't have yet the right and precise answers to:
+++++ " our capability to ignore the noise " ++++

but a priori IMHO I think it is a phsycoacoustic subject and the enormous capacity that our brain has to adapt over time to " continuos " stimulations " like LP sound and its enormous capacity for " discriminaty " what we want to discriminate.

In the other side IMHO we music loverĀ“s always enjoy music it does not matters the source quality level.

In other thread I posted that I'm preparing the information for a new thread with may " new " experiences on a very interesting subject that by coincidence one way or the other take in count this noise subject you are talking about. I hope to post that thread next week.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
I think we all want to learn from your findings about noise.
But the rest of us who were using tubes (& LOMC) we are in a deeper hole.
Dear Geoch: The thread's subject is not mainly focused on that kind of noise " that mantain you on that deeper hole " but something more related to improve that " hole ", each one system " hole ".

regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.
Dear Nandric, it was a really sad and dramatic end for Klaus Renner. And yes - since DAS OHR was literally his "baby", there was no way it outlasted it's father and founder. It was one of the very few magazines ever totally independent from advertising and self-financed.
I started with high-end in the late 1970ies when I was 16.
My first speakers were K + H studio broadcast monitor speakers (type OM I think ) with built-in V69a Telefunken tube-amplifiers bought used from Bavarian broadcast service in Munich.
My first encounter with serious turntables were Micro Seiki RX-5000, Mitch Cotter B and Platine Verdier serial # 1.
And my first "real" tonearm ...... FR-64s...;-) ..... a good friend since 1980.
Nice memories of days gone by.
Cheers,
D.