McDonald43: That is exactly the set up I had, included a desperate attempt with Mint Lp protractor as well, (and Symposium anti-vibe shelf. While it fleshed-out inner grooves better than 20xl, man, the mistracking! I had an expert over twice to double check my work. Some albums which offended, (for split seconds, but stil: Britten's "Rejoice in the Lamb" on Argo, esp. the Missa Brevis, Varese' Poem Electronique, (last few minutes), Freni's final aria, side one Karajan La Boheme, Last 1/3 side one, of Janacek's Katya Kabanova/Mackerras, Debussy's Sonata for flute and harp final pages, Melos Ensemble; Climax of final Kyrie Vaughan Williams' Masss in G/EMI, Moravec, 4th Ballade Chopin "Poet of Piano," final climax of "Jeux" Haitink/Philips, Askenazy Rachmaninoff Preludes, London; Final chorus Rosza's Ben Hur, Perlman/Ashkenazy Beethoven Spring Sonata, final mov't, well...I could go on. Have any of these Lp's?