Turntable speed accuracy


There is another thread (about the NVS table) which has a subordinate discussion about turntable speed accuracy and different methods of checking. Some suggest using the Timeline laser, others use a strobe disk.

I assume everyone agrees that speed accuracy is of utmost importance. What is the best way to verify results? What is the most speed-accurate drive method? And is speed accuracy really the most important consideration for proper turntable design or are there some compromises with certain drive types that make others still viable?
peterayer
Dear Daniel, While Marx is your countryman I refuse to believe that my German friends are 'petty bourgeous'. On the contrary you are all the world citezens with some peculiar hobby. However 'love makes blind' is a Dutch proverb. Not easy to choose among the social rules between so many countries btw.

Regards,

Since Dertonearm did this to me once, when I erroneously attributed the phrase "one man's meat is another man's poison" to Shakespeare, I will now point out that Shakespeare is the oft-cited source for the quote "love is blind" (from The Merchant of Venice). This is not to say that a Dutch person did not also say it. And at perfect speed so as not to alter pitch.
Dear Lew, If you keep quoting all kinds of prowerbs attributing them to Shakespeare there is of course the chance that you may be right sometimes. BTW if it is the case that love makes blind then probable other people were also capable to discovere this truth. Only for the so called intellectual property it is relevant who wrote what first.

Regards,
Atmasphere is quite correct about constant speed and soundstage.
There are many audible benefits with a turntable which does maintain constant unwavering speed which are unrelated to pitch.
With most turntables.......when the music becomes loud, and complex......the soundstage narrows and flattens, the transparency disappears and the sound becomes brittle.
This is caused by the auto modulation distortion of the soundwave in the time domain.
It is no different to a distortion in the amplitude of the soundwave which we simply would refuse to tolerate.
Those with tape decks have a better understanding of this phenomena and unfortunately........the majority of turntable listeners have not really experienced the liberation that accompanies constant speed control.
Once you do.......there's no going back:^)
" Musicians play things in certain keys and tempos for a reason" - Atmasphere

That's exactly right, and the point of my earlier comment. Deviation from the musicians' intent has a significant impact on the music. That's not to say that the music can't be enjoyed if there are small deviations, but there is no question that it's full impact can't be realized.

Atmasphere, I agree that speed stability affects sound staging. I also believe it affects perceived detail retrieval, and timbre. I use a straight
tracking arm (ET2), and I still hear improvements in staging when speed stability is good. When it is not, staging is not as defined and is slightly confused.

I think that in our attempt to arrive at a scientific explanation for all the perceived aspects of music playback, we overlook the very real possibility that there are many things that we don't yet fully understand; probably never will. As I said in an earlier post, time and rhythm are where the heart and soul of music lie. The subtleties of rhythm are extremely fine
and can be very elusive for the record/playback process. The relationship
between rhythm and timbre is likewise very important and difficult to understand. For example: experiments have been performed that show that the characteristic (individualistic) recorded tones produced by players on any given instrument are very difficult to tell apart if one removes the initial attack of a note, and listens only to the sound that happens after the attack. Speed instability alters the sound of the initial attack since the initial attack is connected to a point in time. With this in mind, it is not difficult to understand why speed instability can affect just about every aspect of sound.