Turntable speed accuracy


There is another thread (about the NVS table) which has a subordinate discussion about turntable speed accuracy and different methods of checking. Some suggest using the Timeline laser, others use a strobe disk.

I assume everyone agrees that speed accuracy is of utmost importance. What is the best way to verify results? What is the most speed-accurate drive method? And is speed accuracy really the most important consideration for proper turntable design or are there some compromises with certain drive types that make others still viable?
peterayer
Peter's post harkens me back to a question I asked JTinn on the other thread: How does the NVS maintain correct speed? What I mean is, does it use servo feedback mechanism or some other strategy? I never got a response to that question, and the information is not clearly given on the NVS website. No problem if JTinn wants to keep a trade secret. Same question goes for The Beat DD turntable; Steve Dobbins writes that he did not use a servo because of the "hunting" issue with servos. (This paradigm says that the platter is constantly being jerked around by the servo, at a micro level, because the servo constantly is reacting after the fact to minute variations in speed. Those who don't prefer DD turntables often allude to this phenomenon and say they can "hear" it happening.) I think The Beat uses some sort of viscous drag on the bearing and a 3-phase AC synchronous motor that works against the constant drag force to maintain speed without benefit of a servo. (But my Denon DP80 uses a 3-phase AC synchronous motor too yet takes feedback from the read-out of platter speed effected at the rim of the platter by a sensor and somehow incorporates a quartz-linked servo in the process.) The options are many and complex and somewhat interesting as they bear on what we ultimately hear. Bill Thalmann, a guy I respect who actually can figure out these circuits tells me the Denon one is quite advanced, even for today.
Hi Albert, thanks for the neutral responce.

It was Mike L's posting suggesting this NVS table was all this and that as you know dumping other tables that he had.

Here is just one posting

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1036349020&openflup&2334&4#2334

So when using the TimeLine on the NVS what are the results?
Grr6001 - No one ( to my knowledge ) ever stated it was better than any other TT.
Jonathan Tinn had stated in his system ( which now seems to have disappeared) :
"The Wave Kinetics NVS Direct Drive Turntable is absolutely in a league of it's own. Having a great deal of experience with the likes of the Rockport Sirius III, Continuum, SME 30, Forsell Reference, Grand Prix Audio Monaco, VPI HRX, Nottingham Hyperspace, Basis Debut, Lodo Audio The Beat, Kuzma Stabi XL, Vyger Indian Signature, Walker Proscenium and many others, this turntable is truly unique. It is immediately noticeable. "
There was no declaration of commercial interest.

However it is time to move on.
Wow!

Seems to me a few here have another agenda to try to discredit or devalue what I feel is one of the best turntables to hit the market in a very long time.

It's to bad some have to stoop to these childish levels.

This table,,, The Wave Kinetics NVS, properly set up..... in many ways equals my reference reel to reel tapes.

I know I'm not alone in this assessment>
Dear Raul,
It is rather strange that the ability to maintain accurate and consistent speed for a turntable whilst playing records.......appears to be the hardest feat (for most of them) to achieve?
I would have thought that this is the primary (sine qua non) quality and function of a turntable?
Perhaps your idea of Manufacturers selling turntables with a 'Timeline Certification' could sort the chaff from the wheat?.......but are there ANY manufacturers of current turntables able (or prepared) to do this?

I think in the end.....it is up to each user. Caveat Emptor?
Regards
H