Maplenoll platter stability question


Hello,
I have a question concerning the platter and moving from side-to-side as it turns. I just replaced the drive belt and have a new compressed air source and with the 63lb. platter there seems to be quite a bit of movement of the platter. Instead of the center spindle making a circle as it turns it is more of an oval shape. I've reduced the air flow to the platter to the smallest amount (which reduced the amount of movement)but it is still there. Is it possible that as the new belt stretches a bit there will be less pulling from the side with the motor?
Also, do owners work to level the turntable base or level the platter?
Thanks in advance!
tapepath
Hello Oilmanmojo,
Thank you for your kind response. Am I correct that a proper, unworn, center pin allows no side-to-side movement when fitted to the opening of the top plate? Or, does the pin act as a centering point and the spinning lead platter completely floats with no contact between pin and top plate? I hope this is understandable.
Great question and hopefully i can answer correctly. The centering pin (teflon i believe is the material if i remember lloyd right), serves the purpose of ensuring as the platter floats on the air between the plates (very small clearances) that it stays centered and does not move side to side as the platter turns. Remember the belt will put a slight force on the platter so sufficient friction exists to spin the platter. This means the platter pulls slightly towards the pulley attached to the motor. Now if the pin is slightly worn, but the platter is perfectly level and balanced, no major problem because the force is parallel to the platter and does not cause wobble. But if the platter is not perfectly balanced, then as the heavy side spins, the clearance will be lower on that side versus the light side. Again if the center pin is perfect, and the imbalance is low, then you do not see much if any deflection because the imbalance is just offset by a little friction on the pin. Since teflon has very low frictional properties, you do not see much impact. in fact you will be able to determine this if you carefully reduce the platter air pressure just to the platter just rubs. I found that if you listen carefully the imbalance will be an rhythmic sound and not continuous. if the platter is perfectly balanced the sound will be continuous. I know this sounds a little black magic but it works. If the platter is off balance you compensate by adding more air pressure which lifts the platter a little higher thus offsetting the imbalance Again you will see this by looking at the top of the spindle. It wobbles.

Now there is one other possibility and that is the spindle is bent slightly. If that is the case, the spindle will wobble but your tone arm will not move up and down. Look at it carefully. You also can get a carpenter square to determine if the spindle is bent.

hope this helps

tomg
I believe I can have a friend make a replacement center pin for me. I also think I can find a Teflon rod at US Plastics. I've recently replaced the belt and the increased pulling has caused the side-to-side movement to be more apparent. I have noticed the periodic rubbing when the air pressure is reduced. I don't have a source to balance the platter, unfortunately. I have read the owner's manual and have "trued" the top plate's spindle by lightly tapping on it. I finally have a good source of high enough air pressure. So the centering pin is the last hurdle.
Thank you, very much, for the information.
If you have a good machine shop where u live they may do it for u. Good luck and let me know how it comes out
Hello Oilman,
My friend did a great job and made a couple of center pins that fit perfectly. Now I want to clean some of the lower platter mounting parts and touch up the paint around the mounting area. I try and restore as much as possible when things are torn apart. My friend thought that the upper and lower plates might have been made of magnesium. They have a very smooth surface where they touch when no air is between them.