Has anybody tried the Reed 3P?


I own the Reed 2A and have the 'Magnetic Reed' on lone which I can buy. But I am also curious about the 3P as a possible next one.

Regards,
nandric
Dear Hiho,
Please forgive me if I can't see clearly the video and correctly understand what is going on, but ....
IF :
1* The rotational axis is determined by the 2 bearings of the armtube's vertical movement.
2* These 2 bearings are attached at 90 degrees (to the armtube).
3* The armtube has a strictly straight shape from headshell to counterweight without any interval on it's length by which could possibly been parallel with the cantilever axis.
4* These 2 bearings are not attached (to the armtube) at an angle equal with the headshell's offset angle.
SO :
1* Touching or not touching the armtube is irrelevant.
AND ALSO :
2* Adjustment at the pivot area is irrelevant.
BECAUSE :
3* This does not count as azimuth on the fly adjustment.
AND FINALLY :
4* The bearing design must brilliantly modified by changing it's horizontal axis (parallel with the heashell's) in order to fulfill the claimed azimuth adjustment.

I have no reservations about how one can likes the sound of the Reed 3P. After all the bearing and antiskating designs are an upgrade from 3Q. I just don't understand how this lower than average azimuth proximity can offer so much. Perhaps "The concerns over changing the rotational axis is a non issue for most cartridges" as Steve believes. Maybe it is so, (if they carry conical stylus), but by changing the VTA with this (on the fly) method, seems like changing also the overhung and the zenith during play! I can't see how this can offer any good.

Again please let me know if I can't see clearly the video and if this is the case, I'm deeply sorry and I apologise in advance.

Geoch, you are absolutely correct about the vertical bearings at 90° with the armtube, therefore not matching the angle at the headshell and therefore changing azimuth will change the VTA. I have harped on this issue with many tonearms before but nobody seems to care or at least sonically not noticeable to many so I stop commenting on that. Glad you bought it up. And, yes, changing pivot point will change overhang and zenith.

I was more impressed by the bearing arrangement than anything else, that having only three contact points is quite an achievement in design cleverness. Your concern is a legitimate one. And, yes, the video is too blurry in the background to make good judgment so I am one who should apologize.

Keep up the probing. :)

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Dear Geoch &Hiho, Hereby the responce by Vidmantas:
'Changing azimuth does have an effect on VTA and we are
aware of that. To be precise in numbers after changing the
azimuth by one degree with the Reed 3P ,12'', the VTA is
changing by approximate 12 minutes. However since
both parameters can be adjusted on the fly , after changing one
parameter the other can be easilly readjusted. The azimuth
adjustment feature which would not have impact on the rest
of the tonearm geometry parameters is rather complicated.
In case of the headshell based azimuth adjustment one need
to accept the higher effective mass of the arm as a trade off.'

Regards,
I am using 3P at the moment and actually just installed FR64s in my system. My3P has 12 inch Cocobolo wand. When I bought Reed, I mentioned that I may be using it with Koetsu cartridge. My local dealer contacted Reed and was recommended that I go with Cocobolo. It works extremely well with Air Tight Pc-1 Supreme on my TW Acustic AC-1. However, I was rather disappointed when using it with Koetsu Coralstone.
However I can't tell how much was Reed's fault and how much was TW's fault. TW Acustic told me once via email that I would never hear TW at its full capability with Koetsu.
Anyhow, now I mount on my Koetsu on FR64s/Micro Seiki Bl-111
that could easily rival Reed/TW/Air Tight but has very different presentation whereas Reed/TW/Koetsu is nowhere near the same league. However, I would not rule out Reed with low compliance cartridge as I heard 2P (Cocobolo) with Miyajima Kansui with excellent result as well.
Suteetat, are you using the 3P or 3Q? I noticed your system page lists the 3Q.