Calling all owners - Jasmine LP 2.0 MKII


I've got about 4 full day's use on mine but do not like what I hear.

Question: How dramatically does this phono preamp change throughout break-in?

I hear distortion (spittiness and splashy bass as if it is running out of power) and a flat soundstage.

I am using the stock power cord and umbilical.

I compared it to my other three phono preamps - Hagerman Bugle, V-LPS, Biotronics Control Systems Gestalt (outstanding and extremely rare). They all are much clearer and cleaner.

It must be mentioned that I requested the Ebay seller to provide a reduction in global gain since I have loads of it with my Project Sunrise II headphone amp. They added a switch on the rear that cuts gain by about 5 dB.
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Has anyone put a Jasmine 2.0 up against a 2.5? I don't need the additional inputs but I wonder how much better the internals sound on the 2.5?
I own both of them and will be using both of them at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest with the VPI Classic 4 (2 tonearm) turntable. Anyone is welcome to stop by and hear the difference. Personally, I can't hear any difference. Interesting thing about the 2 inputs. In mine, I can hear crosstalk. If I am using input 1, I can hear it very slightly when switched to input 2.
Just installed Jasmine LP 2.5 in my system driven by a Shelter 901 p.u. At first I was disappointed. But it turned out I`d dislocated my tt arm + didn`t care enough about placing the power unit, resulting in severe hum. After sorting those things out, i e resetting my tt arm and placing the power unit farther away from the phono unit, everything fell into place. Immedately outperforming my Nighthawk 117 on all parameters. So far I`m really impressed and the Jasmine might even gain in performance after some brake in..
Hi All,

I thought I would relay this information from Salience for all those confused as I was as to the issue of Salience being a copy of Jasmine and which is the authentic product.  I have done a lot of research into this including contacting both manufactures and researching the beginnings of both companies. Here is a letter from the Salience company and my findings below;


Dear friend,

Thank you for you sincerity.

Two years ago,the Salience and Jasmine are the same products,they are just logo is different.The Jasmine is OEM's product from us ,and the Salience is our brand from factory directly.

We are in charge of design and production.Because the interests,they are plagiarists our design.

You can investigation of their products,because they didn/t understand technical things,a lot of problems are cropping up.The quality of some products has dropped away since 2 years.

Salience is less well-known than Jasmine in the world. We guarantee the quality of our supplies, and continue improvement production process.

Please refer to the attached picture.This is our honor certificates in 2007.

And please refer to the following other producte, they are our designing products.Please believe in our professionally.

If you have any question, please contact to us anytime.

Best regards.

sailence.service@gmail.com


Apparently Salience is the company that has designed and manufactures this phono stage and Jasmine purchases a similar unit from Salience and markets it under their own name. This is similar to the practices of say "Shop Vac" or "Maytag" producing a special unit for only Home Depot.

The two units although cosmetically look identical, they are not identical internally. The the unit made for Jasmine is made to a price point while the Salience has much higher quality parts and internals. For example the Salience uses Nichicon KZ audio capacitors while the Jasmine uses the lesser Rubycon capacitors. The Salience uses silver film resistors and the Jasmine does not. Internal wiring is not the same, the RCA connectors are a higher conductance etc. etc.

This is the same practice that takes place in the US at the big box stores where say "Maytag" produces a washer to a price point for only Home Depot. Even though the washer may look identical to the authorized dealer's washer, it is of less quality and thus a lower price.

Thought you guys would want to know whats up with this.

Jeff

That is great info Jeff!

A lot of people on other forums are implying that the Salience is a knockoff of the Jasmine, and seem very defensive of their position.

They paid their money and expected the bees knee's I guess?

Anyhow, over at Audiokarma i started a post about my Salience 2.5, and I directly quoted your comments above to verify these facts to other users defensive of the Jasmine.

However, if this is not to your approval I will promptly delete the quote?

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?conversations/salience-lp2-5-mkii-phono-preamplifier-mods-upg...

Cheers, Karl.