Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic

Salvation update from Trans-Fi website illustrates the magnetic bearing modification to the stock bearing. It does not have magnetic field on the horizontal plane, purely vertical. The female and male bearings are separated horizontal by oil. Vertically, they are separated by a thin 1mm layer of magnetic field.

Salvation Update of Magnetic Bearing

Illustration of Magnetic Bearing Concept

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Hiho, this hobby produces more than it's fair share of worshippers: plenty worship Magico spkrs, SOTA engineering and SOTA pricing.
The Linn Sondek LP12 is maybe the best example, decades of true acolyte like fervour. To those who love it, totally justified. Me? I prefer a different approach.
All I know with Vic's tt/arm is that it's a Hell of an achievment: against the engineering grain, he's produced an excellently functioning direct rim drive tt and air bearing linear tracking arm. I'm not saying it's the best by any means. Just that I've heard uber decks, and those incorporating Vic's chosen tech approach, and it's up there.
And at £2400/$5k-$6k, it slays the competition at it's price.
So how many pretenders can you say show innovative tech, with excellent materials, and a totally competitive price? This would mean nothing if it's sound missed the mark, but it's SQ is right up there, a direct result of reducing timing and tracking issues, reducing noise floor, allowing full analog detail, bloom, air, tone and texture to emerge.
I worship great analog, and truly worship the Salvation/Terminator.
Dear Redglobe, You took the words right out of my mouth.
This is Spirit´s thread, let´s respect his opinions as a hobbyist. I think he is a very honest analog lover and it´s his right to praise his rig. I personally have run a Terminator for years now but don´t have experienced a Salvation TT, just it´s motor. With my humble deck it´s a keeper.
I looked at the illustration. It is not accurate. The rim drive puts a side load on the platter. The platter bearing must react to that side load. Therefore there must be contact to the spindle. The magnetic bearing is supporting only the weight of the platter or the thrust load. The magnetic bearing replaces the thrust ball. The magnetic bearing supports the vertical load. The spindle must still support the horizontal load. That is the load generated by the rubber o-ring which is mounted on the motor spindle pushing against the side of the platter. Curious why they left that out of the illustration. That is an o-ring on the motor spindle I am assuming. Btw- if that is an o-ring on the motor spindle, is it glued to the spindle? Otherwise wouldn't it slip?