Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
Spirit & all,
The biggest impvt changes have been in order of precedence 1st air bearing TA, 2nd direct rim drive TT in my analog rig. The maglev bearing is the dot of it, actually another very serious impvt. It simply works fabulously.
The sound is so convincing in everything that it keeps me rushing home from work to spin-up my records. It has no major issues. I´m just enjoying sound quality.
Some records sound a bit harsh though. Actually I´m hoping that the maglev feet would tame this harshness if it´s due to incompleteness of the deck´s ability to the control the resonances that are reaching cartridge, of course. Otherwise this harshness is a recording/pressing issue.
What I´m expecting from this new tweak in order of precedence is 1st impvt in bass quality & quantity and 2nd some notes more in mids and highs. Beeing realistic I´m not expecting too much (hopefully).
I´ve the magnets and delrin feet in my hands and the deck is awaiting in my workshop. This weekend will really be something else...
Harold, please be REALLY careful installing the mag lev feet, pref. have someone helping you. The rare earth magnets are v. powerful, and there is a real tendency for a bit of a fight until you fully engage the magnets and footers in place, esp. w/3 feet to be installed. That second person would be there to help stabilise the tt as you attempt each foot.
Once installed you'll be in for a bit of a change. For me, things were pretty rough sounding, v. harsh indeed, until I realised I'd knocked a lot of levels out in the install, and in effect set up had to happen from scratch. This means esp re levelling the whole tt via the new feet, and re levelling the Terminator gantry, and prob looking at vtf/azimuth again.
Once I got that little lot sorted, the sound transformed from rough'n'ready to even more sophisticated than before. Bass is the big impvt, a real cleaning of hash and revelation of "true" bass, tot non-euphonic, supremely agile, w/kick drum really delineated but no fat.
This leads to a de cluttering of the mid range and a freeing up of treble, the soundstage expanded in all directions. NOT subtle.
Spirit, I encountered fierce magnetic forces in the horizontal plane but with a little help from Ethel, my assistant we tamed them. However, we had a minor drawback. The mission failed. The last feet was relatively easy to adjust but the magnets proved to be too weak. Vic send me a pair of stronger magnets and they will arrive in a couple of days. I will tell more...
Strange things happening, I´m having serious difficulties in sending my URLs, seems they don´t quite work elsewhere anymore and can´t go thru. A message from a fellow Agoner:
"For some reason I couldn't get either of your URLs to work. It might have something to do with the space-time continuum, or perhaps a glitch in my internet connection or that pesky virus"... or are we living in paraller universes and the bridge between our worlds is about to break... maybe we all live in paraller multiversum ? This may very well be my last message...
It'll be worth the wait - if you ever return from that parallel dimension: you know, the one where punk never happened and prog lp's are still spanned by millions, 24/7 on tt's across the world, a la 1973!
Installing the mag feet has been a MASSIVE step fwd - I really do feel I'd have to spend 5x the budget of my Salvation/Terminator/Straingauge to outperform it.
The mag feet, maybe even more than the magnetic bearing, is bringing a massive sense of calm to proceedings, really allowing micro dynamic shadings to emerge, and allow the true bass character of the rig to shine.
I am considering the mag level feet and would like to hear some more opinions on their effectiveness. FWIW I listened to a $100K+ system yesterday with a top of the line Brinkman Table and arm after which I came home fired up my system and was quite pleased with how it compared.