Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
SGunther, the mag lev feet are a no brainer, the only caveat being they may make a thin strident sounding system too edgy. Normal tonal balance or even an overly-warm sound will really be perfect. I've come to the conclusion after a rocky start, that the feet beat the mag lev platter re impvts wrought, no mean feat (feet? LOL).
Re lp clamp, Vic is adamant NO NO NO! The ResoMat in effect leaves the lp supported on points, and any overly-heavy clamp will bow the lp down at it's centre, causing a concave dishing, and a lifting of the outer edge.
Maybe a v. light clamp that doesn't weigh down the lp, but to increase solidity of contact w/the points on the mat, might work. And poss a periphery ring, but again really not too heavy (i.e. avoid like the plague the ultra heavywt TTWeights stuff).
Vic really believes, contrary to pretty much every other tt designer, that vibrations are dealt w/more effectively by minimal securing of the vinyl structure, akin to letting the lp "breathe" while it's playing.
On Kenwood L07D and VPI TNT I've tried a DIY 4 lb. brass weight and a 1 lb. 6 oz. Stillpoints LPI on top of Resomat. The LPI has just enough weight to couple the full circumference of the LP to the Resomat points-- increasing foundation without strangling "breathe."
Spirit - Thank you for your reply. You are correct it is a no brainer, I have been very pleased with my progression through Vic's arm and TT developments and the cost of the Mag feet is very reasonable especially for this hobby.
If pressed I would describe my system as neutral (you can see the components here on Agon). Which brings me to my questions to you; Why do you think the mag feet make a system more edgy? Did you think the mag bearing did the same?
Edgy and revealing can seem v.similar in character. One can have a v. edgy sounding system w/ or w/out detail present. The mag feet will reveal at lot more detail, but I have an issue w/uber resolution in edgy systems, where the sum total is totally uninviting.
Eg Vic's home system incls a digital T amp, open baffle Bastani spkrs, and impressive as the detail resolution is, the edge of your seat presentation I find totally fatiguing and nerve shredding.
It MIGHT be that in a similar uber energetic/revealing rig the feet may push the balance further into nerve jangling territory.
Don't need edgy. Got up and running about 9 months ago after a 30 yr hiatus from audio. While there can always be improvements, have tweaked with tubes and treatments to achieve a rounded, musical presentation. Not overly warm but sweet. Def 4s will get in your face until you tame them but the dynamics can't be sacrificed.
The Salvation-Terminator is a no brainer. True 100% level is a tough order though. I'm really close. I knew going in that a linear tracker was my cup of tea.
Nervosa as the last track comes up can't be a part of my listening experience.