Lyra Erodion vs Ypsilon MC16 for Lyra Kleos

no sut is best. why you need sut for kleos? all you need 55db of gain. if you don't have much i suggest to get cart with higher output.

Hi, I'll have to disagree with the above poster re "no sut in best" -however markanetz may have a valid point in his system from his perspective.

SUT's can sound great. Everything is system dependent. I happen to be thrilled with my EAR MC 4 SUT.

What phono stage are you using? I don't have direct experience with the 2 SUT's you're considering...

The Quality of SUT (Reproduction Quality, Soundstage, Channel separation,
Gain, Specs in Lab...) can show differences like day and night. Unfortunately
there are endless inferior Products out there (High End) because no one can see
inside the box.
I had an Erodion 2 years ago for a loan, my friend got it from the Distributor, he
(both we owned the Kondo Sf-z at that time) made a few comparisons and at
the end of the day, it is overpriced (when you buy it new) for its Performance
compared to others. But the one from Koetsu is much worse, so, it isn't that
bad. The Lyra Painting is great.
The SUT inside the Lamm LP2 (for example) have much better specs and you
can hear it at once.
Never listened to the Ypsilon (I did listen to their Phonostage), but probably
they have more enthusiasm to offer something serious. Try to find a Demo with
it.