VTA and HTA overhang


I was adjusting VTA on my tonearm tonight and out of curiosity decided to check how it effected the overhang according to my MINT LP protractor. To my surprise, very small changes to VTA on my 12" arm are quite noticeable when trying to align my stylus to the arc on my alignment protractor.

My question is to all of you who change VTA for each LP. How do you compensate or adjust for the resulting change in Horizontal Tracking Angle (HTA) or overhang each time you change your VTA setting?

Besides the hassle of adjusting VTA for different LPs, this is another reason I don't fuss with VTA once I have found a good setting for the majority of my LPs. I wonder if those who attribute sonic differences to VTA changes are not also hearing slight changes to alignment which surely effects the sonics.
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Audiofeil, I'm with you there. I don't personally adjust VTA for every record either, but I think it is important to know how different adjustments effect things. Especially when setting up a cartridge.

If you don't adjust VTA for different height records then make sure you set your alignment on a medium thickness record. Unless you mostly listen to 120 or 200 gram pressings. This is what I do.

All that said I can understand why someone might want to adjust VTA for different record heights. Most people don't have the time or patience to fiddle with it. Myself included.
Actusreus, The only way the offset would not move when adjusting VTA up or down is if the tonearm post was curved. Lets use your fork as an example. If you lift your fork without moving the front at all it will trace an arc in the air. Turn the fork on it's side and put it on a piece of paper. If you attached a pencil to the end and rotated it keeping the tongs centered, it will trace an arc. Unless the tonearm post can trace that same arc it will effect overhang when adjusted.
The problem is twofold, overhang changes with arm height and SRA varies from 91 to 95 degrees. Even Jon Risch* (the guy whose work this is based on) said that 91 degrees is right for 80% of all records. In reality, I think most people who occasionally change arm height for a record, usually change it a small amount. A 9" arm requires 4mm height adjustment for 1 degree change. Who set up the alternatives of changing for every record, or not at all?

If you use a Loefgren A or B alignment set at 92 degrees, then raising your arm slightly won't do much to alignment. Any two set of nulls between 60 and 121 mm, is a "good" alignment. Look at the nulls for Loefgren A, B, and Stevenson. If you're skeptical, get a straight line calibrated grid, raise your arm 2 mm and see where the nulls are. IMO SRA errors can be much more audible. Some people don't seem to hear it, but some people are nearly oblivious to speed variations.

Put a UHQR on your table, and in order to maintain your orig alignment the arm must be raised the same amount of extra record thickness. Look at the record and arm pillar as 2 sides of a right triangle. The arm tube to stylus is the hypotenuse. The alignment change is very small and SRA goes negative, Sound a little bassy?

*Audio magazine March 1981
One thought I have that has crossed my mind a few times in the past when thinking about LP's varying thicknesses. Why hasn't someone come up with either a shim or different thicknesses of mats. Then one could place a thicker shim or mat on the platter for standard pressings and revert back to the standard mat for the 220 gram recordings and have one of each for 120,140,180 gram etc.
I realize there may be different sonic signatures for each mat or shim, but would it be that noticable if they are all the same material. I am curious from a mechanical point of view that over time the constant changing of the tonearm in such a small incremented area of the adjuster, what wear will eventually reveal itself. Just a though and love to hear the shortcomings of this idea.
Sarcher, you are absolutely correct that raising or lowering the VTA the same amount as the LP thickness difference will preserve the original alignment. There, I knew I would learn something and this is so obvious.

However, some of the people I know change SRA for different records by listening and trying to duplicate the original cutting angle. This is independent of record thickness as there is/was no standard cutting angle, though most I guess were around 92 degrees. For these people, changing SRA does indeed alter alignment. Perhaps to such a small degree that it is not an issue.

And as Audiofiel wrote, life is too short. I set SRA with a 150-160g LP and leave it, obsessing no more. However, I do spend 20 minutes per side cleaning an LP, because it sounds better to me, so we make our choices, even if they are inconsistent.