Electronic stylus force gauge question


I recently bought my first electronic stylus force gauge. It's a generic type made in China, but looks and feels a surprisingly decent quality. It was purchased from Mehran at SoraSound for those who happen to have it.

I noticed that when I try to measure the VTF, the gauge begins to display a minus reading of -0.01-03 g as I'm lowering the tonearm to place the stylus on the black dot. It then displays a steady reading once the stylus is placed on the dot, which appears to be accurate by comparing with the Shure gauge I used in the past.

I make sure that the platter is secured so I'm not quite sure why the gauge displays the minus reading before the stylus lands in the measuring spot.

Has anyone else experienced this with their electronic gauge? I realize the minus value is arguably negligible, and the issue might be of no practical significance, but I'm trying to get my Delos to track as close to 1.75 as possible so I wonder whether I need to adjust for the minus value. I'm also curious why this is happening.

actusreus
Marek (Actusreus), as an electrical person I'll offer an electrical hypothesis :-)

If, as you suspect, magnetic effects are not the cause, one guess is that the electronic circuitry in the gauge is being affected by either stray capacitance between its various circuit points and the tonearm/headshell/cartridge assembly or the wiring it contains, or by low-level EMI/RFI being emitted from that assembly.

Sensitivity to those kinds of effects could very conceivably vary as a function of battery strength (consistent with Phil's observation). It could also be expected to vary unpredictably during the tonearm's descent, as the angular alignment and the distance between the gauge's circuitry and the tonearm/headshell/cartridge changes.

Alternatively, it could be that digital noise generated by the gauge's circuitry is radiating through its display window (the one part of the gauge that appears to be electrically unshielded across a significant area) into the tonearm/headshell/cartridge assembly, and radiating or capacitively coupling from there through the air into the metallic structure that the stylus is being lowered onto. From there the noise would re-enter the gauge's circuitry, coupling into different circuit points than those from which it originated, again with unpredictable effects.

These kinds of effects could perhaps be viewed as electrical counterparts to the kinds of mechanical effects Doug was referring to in his comment that "ANY scale that resolves to .01g or better will respond to the slightest changes in air currents. I can alter the reading on my scale (different brand, same resolution) by waving my hand over it." :-)

Best regards,
-- Al
Al,

Thank you for your plausible hypotheses. Something tells me you're probably right, as usual, if not about both, at least one of them :)

Now the question I have to ask: can any of this be harmful to the cartridge?
Hi Marek,

None of the electrical effects I hypothesized would be harmful to the cartridge (or to the gauge, for that matter) in any way.

Best regards,
-- Al
If the cause is magnetic attraction, once your finger or the cuing lever has released the pick-up arm all the weight will be carried by the scale; no correction needed.

If your goal is precision (repeatable results) as opposed to absolute accuracy that's easy to determine. Make several measurements and see if the are the same. That is if your arm is not like my OL with its dual pivot construction ( the point of the vert. pivot does not always return to the same spot in the jeweled cup due to planned slop).