VPI Scout setup after watching Frefmer's video

jm...The counter-intuitive is excellent if you change arms/cartridges....otherwise, it has no use at all. I've set up numerous VPI arms and once you get the idea, it is quite easy to do.

Stringreen, I've set up numerous VPI arms and cartridges. Yes, the counter-intuitive makes setting up a breeze. I have had issues getting the azimuth just right on VPI arms though. It's easy enough to get the azimuth close, but with the counter-intuitive I can get it perfecto.

Stringreen,

I still don't understand your point about the counter-intuitive (CI), even after your many posts telling everyone how unnecessary it is. Even if you have one tonearm and use the CI to set it up, you will still need it since it was used to dial in the VTF and azimuth. You can't remove it as you'd be back right where you started. So how does it have no use at all after setting up one tonearm?

Also, the VTF and azimuth can, and frequently do change over time, and the CI allows minute adjustments to one parameter while practically not affecting another, which is virtually impossible with the counterweight alone due to its size and wieght, not matter how many times you've set up a VPI tonearm.

I wrote a response to this but it was not published so I'll try again. If you think that you need the CounterIntuitive, by all means use it. Here are some things though you might have missed in setting up your VPI arms. You do not need to loosen the rear counterweight to set vtf or azimuth. For azimuth, know that the set screw bears pressure on a gasket to affix the weight using pressure fit. It is easy enough to just force the rear counterweight around the axis slightly until the proper azimuth is achieved. You do not have to loosen the rear counterweight to adjust the vtf either. In the rear of the VPI tonearm, there is a hole that accommodates a supplied Allen wrench. By counterclockwise rotation of the wrench, you lighten the force...by clockwise rotation you make it heavier. You are adjusting a moveable weight back/ forth within the arm tube.

Stringreen,

The point is that the CI makes all these adjustments a breeze, and allows very small adjustments that, in my experience, fiddling with the counterweight does not.

I used to own a Scout and now own a Classic. On both tables, the counterweight could not be forced "around the axis slightly until the proper azimuth is achieved." It can be only either very tightly fixed/fastened with the screw, or it will be way too loose to make a proper adjustment. There is no in-between, which makes sense as it's a metal screw that exerts a pressure against a metal tube. O-rings might help with smaller adjustments (by restricting excessive counterweight movement), but they will not provide the precision, the CI offers.

Insofar as there is a screw inside the back of the tonearm that perhaps allows small VTF adjustments, it is way more time consuming that simply sliding the CI.