Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
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What really disgusts me is that especially one bigmouth is trying to derail always and every thread, in which the words TW Acustic or Raven are mentioned. And he is almost everytime successfull. In this thread he led dev and dgad to a sideshow. He is very knowledgable, but he is also a troll [--> red herring]. He has not any / *none* personal longterm experience in listening to a TW Acustic turntable (yes, syntax, we all know that some your buddies had/have a Raven turntable, e.g. kha...).

Yes, I'm also a satisfied customer of TW Acustic. I'm a happy owner of a Raven AC turntable and am very happy with Thomas' great service. To clarify: My rant has nothing to do with my ownership of a Raven turntable. It's just based on syntax' negative, destructive participation in *every* TW Acustic thread at A'gon and in many other audio forums. I also dislike syntax' hype on some of his friends audio products or products his friends are trying to sell. Synax is not in audio business, but he is - from my observations - very active in viral marketing...

P.S. Syntax: how is your Apolyt turntable project going? Any progress in the last two years? *pressing thumbs*
Hmmm.. I found a review of KAB strobe on 6moon that claimed that KAB strobe error is +- 0.03%, that's +- 0.001 rpm so any turntable that is measured ok on KAB strobe should have a speed of 33.333+-0.01 rpm or 33.323-33.343.
Pitchwise, to change a semitone, you need 6% error, so KAB strobe would give maximum of half a cent off (you get 100 cent between each semitone). Some author claims threshold for audibility difference in pitch is about 5-6 cents, one study on student musicians showed threshold of +- 12 cents.

Timing wise, about +- 0.3 second for a 20 minute tracks.
Dev , We all try to save money and where or how you purchased your TT is not an issue.Your remark that you didn't want Jeff to get his ridiculous chunk of change and yet was willing to give your VAC dealer his commision shows you have something against Jeff.
What is also puzzling is that although your TW table was purchased through diverted channels you would then ask Jeff or Thomas for assistance.
You have an outstanding system,I wish you many tears of enjoyment
As for your mention above that my question was a stupid post I'll just chalk it up to you having a bad day.