Brinkmann vs TW Acustic

Are you suggesting then that Timeline is more successful with DD than BD?

I think it depends on the Designer. Based on that discussion I remembered an audiophile buddy with a Platine Verdier Turntable. The last time I did visit him I asked about his speed alignment...lots of Verdier owners think about external motors, the kind of string, the material of it, the length, running the motor 24/7/365 and so on....he did nothing :-), except buying a Vibraplane.

Anyway, I made a date for a alignment Party packed some stuff, Digital Gauge, Timeline, Camera, Carts and we started first with listening a record without doing any corrections.. and we also made some cartridge rolling ...

... we found another turntable Design which has a rock solid red dot on the wall and we also were able to hear differences with several carts :-)

Nice photo of the Verdier. My table is also on a Vibraplane. When I add a record clamp as heavy as the Timline, the Vibraplane moves slightly. How does the thread drive on that Verdier react if the table and platter are on the Vibraplane while the motor is stationary on a different platform? Would it not be better to have the motor and platter on the same isolated platform? Does this alter the speed?

Moonglum
Probably the most sensible post on Agon or anywhere else I've read in a long while. It would do good for many of us opionated, egotistical audiophiles to realise the harm that we can easily cause a small enterprise with our superiority complex. Don't like a product , don't buy it....no need to run down what you don't like....
Have a great weekend

Many thanks Sunnyboy... :) :)
Had a superb extended vinyl session on Friday and attended "Record Store Day" yesterday.:D

Dear Syntax,
I appreciate your kind feedback. Clearly you are interested in increasing knowledge and capability. That was a Lyra "gorefest" you had on display there(!)

This Thread has given me pause for thought even in my comparisons of turntable mats. Although I always accurately compensate for VTA and therefore ensured the VTF was consistent, I've never adjusted for slight differences in WEIGHT, however marginal they might be.

It also triggers thoughts of -
- Different vinyl weights effect on speed.
- Mat drag or lack of it. (Some mats have shiny low friction surfaces. Not using a clamp for each may level the playing field but disadvantages certain mats.)
- Need for a clamp or not, and its weight.
- My Keystrobe disc's weight may encouraged wrong active setting.

The Au strobe disc I use is similar to a double-sided etched printed circuit, but it is quite a heavy material. Because it is label sized it can be easily used while playing the LP entirely. I don't think a high torque motor arrangement is likely to worry too much. I would have reservations about designs that use minimal torque (that need manual startup assist) and then ride the borderline of the limits of tolerance? :(

Keystrobe link here :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KeyStrobe-au-Gold-disc-KeyStrobe-duo-strobe-light-/281090859277?pt=Turntable_Parts_Accessories&hash=item417252210d