Michael Fremer's record cleaning process....

So Grooves, you are the Michael Fremer who I referenced in my opening post. I am happy I found you. Now, Whart wrote that you did not write the article about that cleaning process I was referring to. If so, can you send me that process? If not, is the process listed on your web-site similar? I don't recall. All I remember is that it did use a cleaning machine (I have the VPI 16(?)) and it did use orbitrac pads. Thanks for your hopeful response.

RWD (Rick)

Regarding the sound of Revolver: In 1970 I started buying British pressings of Groups/Bands from over there, including of course the Beatles (I got the stereo versions though, not mono). I immediately disliked the sound of Revolver, especially in comparison to my then and still favorite album of theirs, Rubber Soul. Everything sounded different, and for the worse. Ringo's drums for the first time sounded crappy---and they did for the rest of their recrdings IMO, and everything was a little glassy. Later in the decade I read that Rubber Soul was the last album recorded via tubes, that Abbey Road had gone solid state by the time the Revolver sessions commenced. I haven't researched that claim, but I wonder if that's why.

Michael

On the KL Audio / Audio Desk - I apologize if that came off as stating you
were bought off by advertising, not my intention. I merely noted that your
site advertizes the AudioDesk ultrsonic machine

Here is your statement on the KL Audio

When I emptied the KLAUDiO’s tank, the pulverized dirt particles removed
from the records were in suspension, which means each record cleaned
after the first few will inevitably be “cleaned” with dirty water. I can imagine
a scenario where the pulverized dirt particles in suspension are within
cavitated bubbles hurled at great force against the vinyl. No doubt that can
happen in the Audio Desk too if you don’t change the water frequently
enough, yet the sonic results with both machines were consistently superior
to vacuum cleaning and often times miraculous as chronically noisy records
were rendered quiet.

The "residue" is soluable - not a hard substance

I don't recall that same cautionary comment being applied in the initial
Audio Desk review

sorry if this came off overtly critical on my end

Thank you for all that you do for keeping the analog flame alive

I think for me the real question is what solution to use in my US cleaner (60hz tank)? Do I use just distilled water or water with the Ilford agent or also add the alcohol with it. How often to change it out as it's not too expensive when you make it yourself. would putting a 1micron filter in the tank help keep the suspended particles at bay? So many questions, lol....time to head over to the DIY thread and figure things out and just stick with it.

Slaw, if you're still out there please take a deep breath and don't take these
exchanges so to heart. Right or wrong, heavy handed or not, this site can
use more talk about the music and you certainly provide that. I would
encourage you to consider Grooves' comments. Here we have a respected
professional reviewer with a very long history and who has probably done
more for keeping the analog flame alive than anyone else, and he stresses
that his comments should not be considered dogma but simply his
opinions. Opinions which, when considered in context, can (or not) help
someone make a good buying decision based on how an item is described;
not because he thinks it's the best.

****I am a proponent of discovering, all things analog for one's-self.**** -
Slaw

****I tried to make a difference, no one wants to listen. Good luck to all of
you! I'm becoming tired of trying.**** - Slaw

Which is it?