Cable "burning": Real or VooDoo ???


While i have my opinions on this subject, i'd love to hear from others that have tried various methods of "burning in" cables, what was used to do it, what differences were noticed ( if any ), etc... Please be as specific as possible. If your a "naysayer" in this area, please feel free to join in BUT have an open mind and keep this thread on topic. Sean
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Vantageaudio: The wave properties of electrons do not seem to be the issue here, but instead whether electron flow as "burn-in" will somehow alter the crystal structure of the wire and over time improve its properties of conduction. (Wouldn't simply moving, bending, twisting, or coiling the wire affect its "crystal structure?") Schrödinger's wave theory does not even hint that electrons differ amongst themselves, although they will have different energy levels if they receive different amounts of energy. Millikan calculated from his observations that electron mass is about 1/2000 that of a proton or neutron. If it's true that only the valence electrons make up the electron cloud about the positive ions and the electron flow in an electrical conductor when a voltage potential is applied, then it just seems that in any kind of "burn-in" scenario anyone's described here, there's not nearly enough mass or energy in those electrons to even nudge those positive ions about in the lattice, let alone "realign" them.
Bmpnyc: I know a few wine experts, and they've never done that either. But if someone did, their actions in the scenario I described would show them to be a poseur and not an expert.

Garfish: Trust your senses, yes, but also keep them in check through investigation and understanding, including knowing how to make a comparison. My senses suggest that the sun, planets, and stars all revolve around the earth--that's what it looks like, right?--but I know that's not what actually is happening.

Detlof: I said cables have not been proven to change over time. I may be skeptical about any prospects that they will ever be, but I don't see what's absolutist about that.
702; I get the impression that we may actually agree on a lot except maybe for minor differences in "procedure", or maybe "what is the next step". Cheers. Craig
702, granted and I also agree with Garfish, that we are often closer than it may seem, but I often sense absolutism on both sides, which is detrimental to progress of knowledge for both sides.
702, thanks for the reply, maybe we are all progressing in the right direction of meaningful discussions and who knows, ultimately we may stumble across an explanation that will transpose into a forumla that we can all understand and use to explain some of these effects we perceive? Regarding wave properties, I would have thought we need to look along these lines as any effects that may (or not depending upon your viewpoint) well be caused by the transfer of wave charge along, say, a conductor. The sources quoted are only a small part of the many complex contributions on the subject of particle matter. Speaking of altering structure, is it not possible that somewhere along the line sub-atomic particles are indeed being re-aligned (I'm not saying or suggesting they are "altered")into a more ordered and natural structure after being disturbed during the manufacturing process? Could there be anything here that we should look at to help understand these "changes"? Regards, Richard.