What speakers for 10k?

Yeah, those Vapor Derecho sure look good at that price! Hard to pass up the Nimbus, though, for $3K more if you have the room for them.

At this price point I would give the Legacy Audio Focus SE a listen. They will handle 2 channel and HT both with ease.

New Sonus Faber Elipsa's now on Audiogon for under 10k.
List for 20k.

I doubt you will find any speaker company that uses the quality parts and man hours on a speaker then vapor sound..you can the best or almost best he offers for that money!!! He will even add parts depending upon the sound you desire. I know, as im prob gonna go buy the stiff breeze and have parts added for an extra sound.

After seeing the money that can be saved buying used I'm fine with buying used, I did find some Beethoven Grand's for 2800 in mint condition with boxes and manuals, I believe they retail at 5k. and I'm sure my a21 can handle this speaker with ease. Has anyone heard the Beethoven compared to the Mozarts? or maybe I could find an internet seller that does a 30 day in home trial with free shipping both ways? the only place I can go to listen to different speakers is Chicago and that's a 3 hour drive.