Liquid Ceramics cables Has anyone heard these?

Ozzy - I wouldn't put them on your Audiodharma. I asked Bob Grost about this specifically, and he said "no". They need a few days to "settle in" (has to do with the liquid ceramic), but do not need the usual break-in per se.

Fiddler - Your results fascinate me, as I've been using the HMS Grand Finales for a long time as well! Just to clarify: my comments were not a theory, just my belief from experience. What is fascinating to me is that I had opposite results, although I posted sometime ago on another thread that initially I thought the CTs were rolled off in the highs as well. In the end (after tweaking!), I find the CTs have all the information of the HMS, but the fact that the CTs are much cleaner/quieter made me think at first that there was missing musical information (especially in the highs). The piano sound REALLY puzzles me, since in my system the CT's piano tonality is MUCH better than it was with the HMS. The leading edge or attack part makes much more sense to me, but again, - after making some changes, such as removal of room treatment - I find the leading edge and attack are even better (and far more REALISTIC) than with the HMS. My conclusion was that the HMS exaggerates and bloats the bottom end (fooling me for a while that it goes deeper than the CT) and hypes the highs a bit, but who REALLY knows which is more neutral. Just two different experiences in two different systems, I guess. The great news is that synergy is always important, i.e. so we both can enjoy our systems. Thanks for you thoughts. Hopefully both of our experiences will benefit others.

To others who might try the CTs: my suggestion is to give them a lot of time, and play with making other changes in the system, room, power conditioning, power cords, etc.

Jfz,

My belief is there is no right or wrong in this hobby, only preferences. The fact that we had opposite experiences can be chalked up to different systems in different rooms with different ears and brains listening. I have learned to take all comments or reviews with a grain of salt when it pertains to audio equipment and I would highly recommend that anyone take my comments with a whole shaker of salt.

I'm happy to hear that the CT cables have worked so well in your system and I certainly wish Bob Grost well with his cable and speaker endeavors.

Thanks Fiddler. I'm in complete agreement with you, and suggest that anyone take my comments with lots of salt as well.

Mr. Alanmkafton, aka Audio Excellence AZ and sole seller of the Cable Cooker, I suggest you take a deep breath and think before launching an attack on me. The intent of my post was not to badmouth the product you sell, which serves a purpose for some people, just to suggest to Ozzy that Bob Grost might have something to say about the use of such a device, which in fact he did, as Jfz reports. Is that too big a concept to grasp? As you deduced, I'm not a dealer for Cerious, but I respect Bob Grost's experience and background. How are you to know whether or not I've heard the cables? Over and out.

Glad to know you weren't badmouthing my product again. But Bob Grost, to my knowledge, hasn't used a Cooker either. That's neither here nor there, as his products look quite interesting, and more people are experiencing very good things with them. I always champion an innovator like Bob Grost....our hobby needs more clean-sheet-of-paper thinking.

A point I didn't make earlier is that a large number of cable manufacturers typically say that their cabling either doesn't need "break-in", or needs very little. Customers usually find their own experience to be different, needing quite a number of hours on the new cables, and sometimes requiring the use of a conditioning device such as mine to accelerate the process and further improve the playback.

The Cerious cabling uses a unique, non-metallic conductive material....but still uses synthetic dielectric materials that the Cable Cooker's multiplex signal also addresses. Whether this will be efficacious on the Cerious cables remains to be seen....someone will inevitably do the testing. But in my experience, it is highly-doubtful that there would be any harm, as you have previously, and wrongly stated. If I am reading the tea leaves correctly, Mr. Grost seems to feel that a Cooker, or similar device is "not necessary", as the ceramic material "doesn't need break-in"....just time to settle in. That is his experience to-date, and quite different from your statement "be careful", and its negative implication.