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a great take on big$ cables

i was talkin to a friend about cables & wire's & no matter how hard i try to tell him its not needed he wont budge because he has heard that big buck wires are the way to go,i even showed him this web page & after reading it his response was this "if they didnt work then why would they sell them" after talking for hours i gave up & gave him a demo,he heard no difference & neither did i but he still believe's.

there isnt alot of info published on wires except by manufacturer's so i thought i'd post this so every body could enjoy it.

this is a link to roger russell's web site where he gives his thought's on wire's & cable's & reports on blind testing that was done,if your not familuar with him he was a audio engineer for many years & from some of the gear i own that he designed i'd say a damm fine engineer too.

if you are of the belief that big buck cable's are not worth using you may get a chuckle but if your a firm believer then you might be bummed out,anyway's here's the link if you care to read about wire's.

{http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm}
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piezo
304 posts
 
I'm a firm believer that cables make and audible difference....for the better or worse is another question. I think a lot of folks use them as high dollar tone controls myself. For my system i went with something reasonable that sounded good and then started tweaking my room.

Anyway, my main point is i have a friend who holds " a cable is a cable" viewpoint. He owns a high dollar pro studio. The early Manheim steamroller stuff was done there and he does work for Disney among others, in other words a real studio and not a corner of a basement. He feels that anything other than 12 ga zip wire for speakers is a waste of money and for the sensitive low level lines he uses all monster but anything more than that is also a waste of money. If the guys who are sourcing our material aren't all that worried about what they use i think it adds support to the fact we are using wires to tune our systems to our ears rather than going for the most accurate. Nothing wrong with that
serus
93 posts
 
Snofun3:
suddenly the difference was, errr, let's say, much less perceptible

So, are you saying that you are **as satisfied** with your system in the **long term** with Radio Shack cables or generic 99 cent interconnects from the flea market?

If so, then I understand you although I don't agree.
If not, then there must be something "else" that the **test didn't catch**. That's all I'm saying.
snofun3
601 posts
 
For the record -
I believe there is a significant difference in the way cables sound.
It's the concept that someone can wax eloquent about a cable or a cord, then go all apoplectic about the why / how they couldn't be expected to identify this grand epiphany in a DBT is always a great chuckle to me.
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mark02131
99 posts
 
My Theary is that cables should not make a difference. They should not "get in the way" of the audio signal. I can hear a difference between some cables and I wonder why they are "modifying" my music, I have to have cables that will leave the music alone.

I had an 8 ft pair of cardas quad link 5's (300.00 a pair). I needed longer cables so I had to go a cheaper route. I went with www.Signalcable.com I got a 35ft pair for 280.00 and it transformed my system. The sound stage is wider, deeper,and everything is more natural and open sounding.

This tells me I don't need super expensive cables, I just need the right ones.
pabelson
344 posts
 
My claim is very simple. Since the method proposed (i.e. DBT) is worthless (and there is lots of scientific data that says that is true) for determining audible differences

There is not a shred of "scientific" evidence that says any such thing. If you have to make up science to prove your point, you've lost the argument.
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