I've come to the realization...


I want cables that will give my ears a rest.

I've come to the realization that my ears are rather sensitive (to the point of pain) to what some other audiophile listeners and reviewers find exciting and acceptable. I like to listen to the music firstly.

I work as a concert piano technician I am privilaged to be exposed, up close and personal, to real and actual top-notch instruments both American and European.

Over the years, piano voicing has become my specialty, and I am now sought after for this service. I find that some of my most discriminating clients and institutions completely defer to me for the voicing of their instruments.

All this to say that my ear is highly trained and very skilled in reference to actual instruments.

Also, some years ago, I retailed audio in a high-end store in the SF Bay area. Some of our brands were CJ, Rowland, Quad, Apoggee,Thiel, Benz, Koetzu, SME, MIT, etc.

Last year, I decided to upgrade my speakers from the original Quad ESL to the then critical darling the Gallo Reference III. To my ears, this speaker is better in most ways that I care about.

Having first broken-in and then listened to my speakers in several venues, and with a great variety of inputs and amplification, I have concluded that the reviewers of the Gallo speaker must be using better cables than I am, or must have a high tolerance for a shrill and tipped up tonal balance.

Putting tubes behind me, I was an early adapter (before the hype) of the NuForce monos, and I feel that these amps currently represent one of the very best values in amplification and is not considered to be a "bright sounding" amplifier. I found the sound of the top-end of these amps to be smoother than my EL-34 based reference tube amplifier.

When using a preamp, I insert the Sonic Euphoria autoformer PLC, a component known for its neutrality.

I have used vinyl and tube CD players as sources with the Gallos and the tonal signature is never completely relaxing to me. Currently I am using the Squeezebox 3 for a source, with a modified linear power supply.

For speaker cabling, I started out with some OCOS, then tried Alpha Core M1-2, and in a quick attempt to save my hearing, switched to some almost 20-year-old MIT 750. It helped.

As interconnects, I have experimented with using Ven Haus Pulsars. A great value, Chris's product transparently spotlights the midrange, and has great bass and dynamics, but features little depth, and is still much to lively for me. I tried original MIT 330 (not very transparent by today's standards, but coherent tonally and good soundstaging, I'm sure the MIT sound has come a long way since 1988). And I tried Magnan Signature (fabulous soundstaging and tonality but alas, compressed dynamics).

I still need something much smoother or laid back in the 5-10k hz range than any of these designs, + added warmth in the lower midrange wouldn't hurt either. And, I want great dynamics.

Cardas Golden Cross and Golden Reference seem to be a common suggestion for taming brightness and hardness and providing a smooth and warm tonality. MIT also has this reputation. For my buget, used these cable are still cost prohibitive. Zu is cheaper, and is voiced for Zu speakers, which are decribed as being somewhat forgiving in the highest octaves.

Any lower cost solutions? Interconnects in the >$200-300 used range. Speaker to $400 or so. What have you found.

Experience valued over conjecture, or the parroting of reviewers.
Thanks for your help,

for the music,
earthpulse
I have the same sensitivity to high end energy. I'm a great fan of cardas golden reference, but I just tested the Speltz anti-cable and I have not heard anything that can compete with them near their price. My experience has led me, in broad categories; to vinyl, the el34 tube and silk dome tweeters. If you can, demo sonus faber with a good tube amp (and a good source). Jeff

To JJ2468,
My sensitivity extends to surface noise and pitch variation as well (from off-center records). No more vinyl for me, even though I have many hundreds of records. Not to mention the cost of a turntable, phew! I got used to having a good one in the old days SOTA Star/SME IV/Decca/Sumiko DTI. Still have the Decca cartridges, dynamic as hell: London Super Gold, a VDH modified Gold, and Garrot Micro-Scanner Plum. Not going there again.

One thing I didn't mention in my post is that I am moving to the humid tropics, so wooden and leather speakers are not a working possiblilty, though when choosing speakers, I did considered the Sonos Faber line based on many comments written here by SF owners.

I'll try the Speltz, IC's first.

Psychicanimal,
Power delivery? I agree with you that this may be a contributing factor, so, I am shifting to a solar/battery system, off the grid (actually, I was going to anyway). The tonal issues I am experiencing may be exaggerated by my present power situation, (Monster HTS-5000 for sources, NuForce with NuForce upgraded cables into the wall). None the less, my limited experience with power delivery suggests that the tonal imbalance I am hearing is beyond what power supply abnormalities might cause.Thank you for your ideas about Ridge St., I am ear-shy about silver. The natural cotton sheilding sounds comfortable for the tropics, I'll try a pair on for size.

Audphile1,
I will demo some of the cables suggested in this tread in my system to zero in on the cure.

Clio09,
I tried the Oritek IC over the weekend and heard it really compress the music in this system: APL Marantz/Cayin KT88 integrated/Gallo Ref 3, Harbeth Super HL5

Arni,
Surprisingly, I found the Nuforce Monos to be more smooth and mellow than the CJ MV-60 they replaced. So, while I agree that too much "transparency" - read: high-frequency energy - can add up to an unlistenable system... I do not hear NuForce's brand of transparency coming across in the form of distrorted tonal balance or exaggerated HF dynamics.

Chuck,
Harmonix is 3x my price range. Purist is 3-6x my price range, Harmonic Tech... thats the ticket, thankx, I'll try them.

Sms,
to my ear, my ancient MIT 750 'music hose' beat out the AU24 speaker cable, in all areas. Yet, the price is right for AU24, and given its popularity here I want to give a listen to a complete AU24 set up. Thank you.

Tobias,
Your system looks great, I would love to hear it. Ensemble cables... none available used at the moment. I'll keep looking.

Thanks to all! More suggestions welcomed.
Audio Note AN-V for interconnect and Lexus for speaker wire they have beautiful bloom on top and never edgy. I found the AN-V to easily better the Audience AU24 in my system - the Audience is bright and thin.
don't laugh, but with most well designed, neutral components.....less is more. outside of the sonic generalizations of copper, silver, or hybrid cables, there is no cable brand that will dramatically 'fix' anything. if the old MIT'S sound better to you. use them. I have 15 year old Acrotech wire that i can't throw away....they just don't do anything wrong...in fact they don't do anything that stands out either........cables shouldn't bloom or vrrroooom or create anything. they should just solidly link components.
I too would recommend you try the Speltz interconnects and speaker cables. They are cheap (especially the speaker cables) and you could re-sell them and not take too big of a hit to your wallet.

I tried Paul's speaker cables and they certainly took the edge off the highs and they added some warmth. Actually, too much warmth for my taste. I bought mine used and re-sold them for the same price. Only cost me $5.00 in shipping to try them.

Enjoy,

TIC