Sweet sounding SE tube amps under $3K USED



I'm looking for some imput on tube amps... mono blocks or stereo, doesn't matter. Needs be SE for sure, XLR in as well as option is OK.

Sonically? Superior mid range, great bottom end, and sweet top end without lack.

I would prefer self biasing, but a stable amp once biased properly or one easy to bias, would be FINE.

Stock tubes should be sufficient to provide a very good sound and the neeed to retube with NOS not a mandatory thing to accomplish that end.

Retubing should not cost a ridiculous amount.

If the overall cast of the sound leans towards the euphonic or musically colored side of the scale... that's all the better too.

Power? I'd guess anything over 10 - 15 wpc, to ???... though I would prefer 30+ wpc.

Are there such amps?

I sure would like to know. BTW the less costly, the better.
blindjim
Darkmoebius
thanks. I recall now the thing that set me off. thanks for the links to these as well... the ST review won't open for me though. Re-reading through the rest of them reproved the notion I had about them... on paper. My take, is that they have greater emphasis on leading edge and slam, than the euphonic side of timberal glow. But perhaps that can be accomplished with a bit of tube rolling... there or elsewhere in say, the preamp.

I suppose that is the stumbling block for me and compromise seems aptly, the answer. I need either compromise the financial future, or compromise the sonic pallet by way of euphony, or the dynamic. spectrum.

That, in a nutshell is what I felt the Thor amps captured so well in their presentation. Almost equal parts of the color of rich timberal luster, and very good leading edge definition, lending the blend to a natural recreation of tones and fine image outlines possesive of such sufficient body that was 'ear-catching' to say the least.

Just one of those "Ooooooohhh" sounds, quite impressive.

Given, I'm no longer afraid of the dreaded neutral monster that had so long haunted me i would now be incled to compromise some of the euphonic side of the coin to gain greater flexibility in vaster musical genre enjoyment... but not entirely, just some.

which makes me feel I should get the Thor 30's, and a decent SS for sequential use with the monos, to better cover the whole of things, perhaps. Like a small Bells, Mac, or even a couple digi's.

Kenreau
thanks... I'm drawing a blank on "AE"? Who's that?

Newbee
Thank you much. I'm getting such an influx of int info I'm wondering now if I've not made some mistake by not paying as much attention to them earlier on. It probably had something to do with my predisposition to the "lots-o-watts" camp I was so squarely set into.

I think, 'think' mind you, I should go ahead and pursue the addition of the tube amp (s) first as I am fairly set to that task and would hate to abandon it without ever knowing something of it firste.

I don't doubt for a minute that there are some really fine ints available out there. One is likely in my future, just not at the moment. Unless the financial bottom of the life boat I'm paddling runs onto a reef.

The aspect of the pre in's is a real good thing too for me.

The addition of the Silverlines will allow a far wider path for audio investigation now, regardless the tube amp, as they simply continue to impress whilst they run in.

Just for some closure I figured to sign on and tell what I bought ultimately.

I got a pair of preowned Dodd 120 MK II, w/Platinum sonicap upgrades. They arrived safe and sound as I overnighted them from Portland Or.

First impressions? Nice. Changing around some tubes they got nicer. Very good in fact. So at this point I'm satisfied I made a fine purchase.

Only one issue exsists. My own inability to read the bias meter. I'll figure out a work-a-round for that soon enough.

...and now the need is for amp stands.

So thanks everybody for your thoughts and experiences. they served me well indeed.

BTW they work very well with the Thor pre, and Silverline units. No anomolies at all.

I pray I can repay the favor down the road.
All the best Jim
With a bit of "tweaking" you can raise the Dodds performance quite nicely
A buddy of mine is running a Cary SLI 80 signature (w/EH KT88's) w/Sonatina III's in triode mode. It's a really nice sounding combo.
Musicfile
..and by that you mean some tube rollin' right? If so, I have on order some RCA 5687. One pair. I'm going to order another set of the SED C EL34. With a full set of GE 7044 (very dynamic and extended & high res), another of Tungsol 5687, (a bit less res and so forth as the GE, but still quite good... just 'less' by about a third), and hopefully the RCA will round out the sound a bit better for my preffs.

Amp stands worth having vs. my DIY's ARE IN ORDER NOW.

Pehare
Thanks. that's an int amp right? Hopefully my 'next' amp will be akin to my preamp. The PA 30 were high on my short list and match my tastes more closely... though an ART AUDIO may be too or a VAC.

I've long since become more flexible in which way things go, as they keep going down different roads than the predetermined route.

4 yrs ago my plan was for a pair of BW 802N, a tube pre, and a BIG Mc amp. Only one of those goals were realized, and that one is a keeper. So too are some other items in my sys. Maybe the Dodds too... though they have far more extension and power than I need and so did the VK60.

25-50 wpc is all the power these particular Silverlines need, for my room and preffs, I think.

One thing is for sure, the Sonata IIIs can 'handle' power, but they are quite adept at resolving musical recreation with not much power as well. Perhaps previous itterations, or the preffs of those owners has indicated otherwise, but with my bought recently new, from Silverline, Sonata IIIs lots of power is not a necessity. IMO.

The 'TYPE' of power being applied however is more important. I've not had to use an output tap other than the 8 ohm one... on any amp... well, so far anyhow.